decent first bike?

[NiceFoxBody]

hey guys, im THINKING about some different possibilities i can do.. one thing i could do is sell my quad and buy a truck, ( i was thinking a chevy with with a solid front axle and lfit it) or selling my quad and buying a street bike, or just keepin the quad, but if i were to buy a streetbike, whats a decent starting bike, i know i dont wanna hop on a new busa and yahoo it around.. but i dont really want one of those ninja 250s :worry: , i like the cbr F3's and i love the f4i, (comfort wisE) i havent ridden any yet and that would be teh next step, but any insight from you street bike riding guys would be great..

-James

[Mr Joshua]

best bet is to get your permit then take the riders safety course that they offer through the DMV, you get your licence and a chance to get used to riding a bike if you've never ridden one before.. after that i'd recomend sticking with an upright bike, rather than a street bike around 400-500cc's till you get used to riding around traffic... then after about a year i'd go look at 600's possibly 750's...
i didn't follow any of this advice, but after looking back upon what i've been through and what i've learned, i'd definatly go that route..
if you have any Q's just ask..

[NiceFoxBody]

just wondering, what did you go through? lol, ive had my permit, and ive ridden dirt bikes and quads, but ive heard there completely different, ad upright bike? u mean such as a cruiser? or what? lol, my buddy started out on a 94 gsx 600, ad he did fine and said it was slow and he learned off of that, but thanks for the advice joshua

[Mr Joshua]

the gsx-r wasn't hard learning on at all, i'd ridden dirtbikes, quad's, etc.. extensivly in the past, which affected my choice of bikes..
if i had little to no riding time i would have probably gotten more of a cruiser. like a katana rather than the gixxer.. you'd probably be fine with a GSX-R 600 as long as you respected it, and rode defensivly...
Large vehicles, cell phone users, and people not paying attention are the worst hazards on the road, besides sand/oil/water/wet leaves/etc..
alot of people get a liter bike for their first bike, not the choice i'd make, and other more experienced riders will tell you the same thing, that extra 1-2 second in the 1/4 don't really make that much of a difference in the riding experience as a whole..

[NiceFoxBody]

i am not positive, but the way i see it almost every streetbike i see is either fairlyfast or fast... and anywhere is ok for me to start out on.. im a big kid too @ about 225-230, i dont think id appreciate a nic eshiny ninja 250! so i was thinking somewhere along the lines of a 600 sumthing... no beaty queen bike either, all primer woudl be cool, no need to worry about scrapes is there a 600 thats easier to learn/ride than others? i want comforatble as well as decent looks, katanas.. i dont like the way they look, i love the way an R6 looks but i dont find them comforatable... as far as sitting on bikes goes, i think th gsx's and the cbr f4is are very comforatable

-james

[Mr Joshua]

i only rode my GSX-R, though i'v sat on honda's and yamaha's personally i didn't like the seat height, the way they ballenced, ease of finding the controls, guage layout, and overall looks..
the GSX-R just fit me nice, and thats what i wanted.. the 600 was in my price range and i liked the looks... check out buell's and see how they work for you, they're geared more twards beginer riders, but are certainly no slouches, and have a seating position much like the katana's more upright than slouched over.. might want to check out the triumphs as well.. certainly don't discount other bikes until you've had a chance to try them out or at least sit on them...

[540Malibu]

i only rode my GSX-R, though i'v sat on honda's and yamaha's personally i didn't like the seat height, the way they ballenced, ease of finding the controls, guage layout, and overall looks..
the GSX-R just fit me nice, and thats what i wanted.. the 600 was in my price range and i liked the looks... check out buell's and see how they work for you, they're geared more twards beginer riders, but are certainly no slouches, and have a seating position much like the katana's more upright than slouched over.. might want to check out the triumphs as well.. certainly don't discount other bikes until you've had a chance to try them out or at least sit on them...
i'd stick with a late 90's 600, a honda f3 or f4 would be a good choice, a buell would toss you off and in a lot of respects is more difficult to ride than most streetbikes due to the torque, although they are not as fast.

[Mystic1199]

:stupid: my first bike was a 97 honda 600F3 bought it for 4400bucks with 5k miles on it rode it for a year and was great ...thats the best bet get a older 600 well late 90's still sporty looking and cheap as in 3k range ride for a year or more then move on to something else ...i like 600's as i feel biiger then the bike i had a R1 and it was the worst bike ever uncomfortable as all hell ....


oh ya best riding tip ,ride at night no old peopel around ...

[Black Rob]

HONDA HONDA HONDA... lol... I've had nothing but positive experience, and the F4i's are sick. Everyone that stunts are getting rid of the 929's and 954's and buying the F 600's up. The F4i is a nice looking bike, but best of all they are smaller and lighter, and can take a serious beating. F3's/F4's were extremely nice back in the day, and are good used bikes for the money, but the F4i has taken their spot for a "newer" bike.

My buddies ride slow ass dragging wheelies, circles, stoppies, no handers, yada yada yada. They all choose Honda. They beat on them, don't keep up on them... Hell my friend never even checked the oil in the 2 years he stunted his 01' 929. I know it's dumb but he simply didn't care... and the bike lasted. Ran so well he sold it for $4500 cash (yes I feel bad for the new guy, lol) and it looked like ass. 600's plenty big for anyone. I'm 255 and it'll still give me a ride and a half. No problem getting me up and going. Then again, you can gear any bike to go faster or slower, more torque or more top end.


Gotta say gixxers are nice bikes. Probably the best known bike out there. Nice riding bikes, a ton of aftermarket stuff to make them "showy", and I've owned a couple. But I still think Honda makes a better product and more reliability.

Think of your quad for example. What make is it? You sastisfied with it's reliability and design? User friendly? Comfortable? Then look into another one of their products and go from there. See if another bike is more/less comfortable... Ask people who ride about their bike or their favorite.

On a course they let you use old beat up 250cc cruisers. Nothing hard to learn on at all, and they waive your driving test if you pass the course. You get your license on the spot. Things are a bit different from a cruiser to sport bike, but not much. Same "how to", your just not as comfortable or slow with a sportbike, lol.


My opinion differs from Mr. Joshua. If your looking for a sport bike, buy a sport bike. If you want a cruiser, buy one. Sport touring bikes (cross between sport bike and cruiser) are probably not what you want.

And this is my honest opinion: A katana to me is garbage on wheels. Lower end of Suzuki's products. Fugly as all hell, not too comfortable, and I've never seen a "nice" one. Everyone calls them a "can o' tuna". But to each is their own. You like em? Buy one. I'm not hating. It all boils down to your opinion. Go for what you want. It's not "just a car" and "just transportation" to get you from point A to point B. I don't know if you already have a car or not, but we live in New England. You can't think that way. A bike is another option to an antique car or weekend driver. Get what you want... looks, performance, comfort... but most of all FOR FUN. If you have to ride in the rain or snow cuz it's your only means your not going to like it after a while anyway. I tried it one year. Rode in about a 1/4 inch of snow doing .05 MPH to get somewhere. I never did it again.

Just my 2 cents... hope it helps ya. Want to talk to some people about sport bikes? Go to www.stuntlife.com or www.stuntusa.com or join the local Reckless Methods forum. I'll post a link below. All these sites will help you in the right direction for you.

Keep in mind the RM (reckless methods) site is a local non-mod site that is set up and run by personal friends of mine. No edits, no hastle. Swears, racism, sexism, nude pics, yo momma jokes, bitching... anything goes and it's all allowed so be careful... And it's not only about bikes. Everything is off topic there. Everything is also in good fun, don't take anything personally or seriously. Everyone rags on eachother, tells awful and dirty jokes, and posts pictures of ex girlfriends or peoples mothers, lol... Some of the girls are worse than the guys on there. It might not and probably won't be work safe for anyone. Take all this as your warning now. Sign up is free and have a good time (everyone's invited) :idea:

[03slutstang]

dude the last thing your ass needs is a streetbike.

[Black Rob]

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[NiceFoxBody]

LOL wtf does that mean billy? i mean, yous gots a street bike, why cant i? :P

-James

[HorsePwrAddict]

Im going to have to say honda too, Ive had honda dirtbikes, quads, street bikes, outboards and have never had a problem. Beat the fuck outa them and they keep on goin. My first street bike was a '89 CB-1, great for learning on but i had tons of riding time in the dirt before i had it. Id say a F4i would be a good choice. Its deffinatly fast, but its not so powerfull that it will catch you by suprise when you do something weird.

[Mr Joshua]

it basically boils down to personal preference as to what brand you feel comfortable on..

[HorsePwrAddict]

it basically boils down to personal preference as to what brand you feel comfortable on..

:stupid: ...now a days it comes down to what you like/want, You cant really buy a bad bike.

[igotasweetride]

any newer 600 is easier to learn on as they're more balanced, but they also will scare the shit out of you. i took the rider course for 2 days and picked up my 03cbr 600rr a couple days later. everyone said id die on it due to lack of experience. :bs1: you just have to respect the bike and know your limits. your smartest bet would be to get an older 600 like the other guys said, then after a year or so, get something newer. but if you don't want to dump for a stupid reason TAKE THE RIDERS COURSE. i cannot stress that enough. it teaches you a LOT in two days, worth every penny.

[dragit94]

Ive sat on the gixxer 600's and riden a 750. to me the tanks are wayy to big and uncomfortable to ride. exp for a bigger kid like you. im right in your weight range and my stomach hit the tank and the tank was a lil wider than my liking.


how do you guys like the CBR900RR's im looking for a non-stunted 900 to start off with. yea, you might say i will kill myself, but i have riden friends bikes and have been riding in the dirt for 10 years. they seem to be in my price range if i look around right ($3500-4000). any other bikes think i should look into?

[03slutstang]

LOL wtf does that mean billy? i mean, yous gots a street bike, why cant i? :P

-James
because when u took me for a 10 min ride in your LX i thought i was gonnna die

[NiceFoxBody]

LOL it was just so you could "feel" the car. i dont do a buck everywhere i go, duh.. and i dont know if that was a compliment or not, haha


-James

[pack of q tips]

honda for sure, i love my honda street bike 98 superhawk v-twin 996cc
my first bike was an 86 ninja 900 it was okay first bike i ever road was a yamaha yzf600 which was also a nice bike
the f41 or and older f3 is a good beginer bike to
i've ridden a 929rr and that was a sweet bike
if i ever sell my superhawk im gonna get a rc-51 i LOVE those bikes

[540Malibu]

Ive sat on the gixxer 600's and riden a 750. to me the tanks are wayy to big and uncomfortable to ride. exp for a bigger kid like you. im right in your weight range and my stomach hit the tank and the tank was a lil wider than my liking.


how do you guys like the CBR900RR's im looking for a non-stunted 900 to start off with. yea, you might say i will kill myself, but i have riden friends bikes and have been riding in the dirt for 10 years. they seem to be in my price range if i look around right ($3500-4000). any other bikes think i should look into?

900rr's a good bike, handles extremely well for a 900, comfortable to ride, motors are very stout, you can beat it to death all day long without any issues. the only downfall is the seat, toss one on from corbin or sargent cycles and its perfect.

[dragit94]

900rr's a good bike, handles extremely well for a 900, comfortable to ride, motors are very stout, you can beat it to death all day long without any issues. the only downfall is the seat, toss one on from corbin or sargent cycles and its perfect.


thanks for the advice, ive heard that those motors, well many of the hondas for that fact are fairly reliable and hold up.

ive also noticed that any stock honda sport bike seat isnt too comfortable.

[Black Rob]

900 RR are great bikes.. Many people like them. The only downfall to them is they're carbed. Not bad if you wanna just ride around, but can be a problem if you want to stunt, although many people still can/do. Personal preferance. Now that FI is on almost any newer bike I like it better; it feels smoother.

[dragit94]

i dont really have the money for a newer carbed bike as i just want it for a bike to start off with and i have a few other projects that also eat most of my money.


been looking around and seems like im pretty set on the 900RRs. now i was hearing something from someone that the older versions dont really have the nut that the newer ones do. anyone know if this is valid info and what year 900RR would be best to look for.

[540Malibu]

i dont really have the money for a newer carbed bike as i just want it for a bike to start off with and i have a few other projects that also eat most of my money.


been looking around and seems like im pretty set on the 900RRs. now i was hearing something from someone that the older versions dont really have the nut that the newer ones do. anyone know if this is valid info and what year 900RR would be best to look for.

correct, i think 97 up are 919cc and the earlier are 893cc?? and the newer ones 98-99 have the highest output.

[HorsePwrAddict]

correct, i think 97 up are 919cc and the earlier are 893cc?? and the newer ones 98-99 have the highest output.

i think it went 893(??), 919, 929 then 954..sorry couldn't tell ya the years each one changed

correct me if im wrong

[540Malibu]

i think it went 893(??), 919, 929 then 954..sorry couldn't tell ya the years each one changed

correct me if im wrong

yes, there are more but the 900rr's are 92-99,2000-2001 929rr,2002-2003 954rr, 2004-now 1000rr.

the 893's were until 96, 96 came out with the 919cc 900, and in 98 different cams upped the power.

[dragit94]

thanks for the info. i had my eye on a 97 900RR from a guy that posted a couple times on this site, but i think he sold it. trouble is finding one of these bikes that havent been stunted, beaten to death or with a shit load of miles.

[My84Z]

one of the best first bike's is the suzuki sv650. my firt bike was a hurricane 600 wich was also a great learning bike but the 650 has plenty of power to get you into trouble. It's all about being smart and knowing the consequences (SP?)

[Black Rob]

My buddy rides an SV and swears by it. Had a 650, then bought a 1000. JUST FYI: In long wheelies it starves for oil cuz the pump is in the front of the pan. He claims with stock gearing he easily clutches up in 3rd. Kid weighs maybe 100 pounds soaking wet though too. I am 250 and never ridden one, so I don't have a clue.

My friend is on the Clear Alternatives (clear tail lights) ad in the back pages of most sportbike magazines. He's sitting on the tank doing a wheelie with his legs spread.