I need a badass tranny

[irishboom]

I recently was told to pick any tranny that i want up to $5000 You all know that I still want to beat em' with a stick so it has to be bulletproof. Obviously it has to be for my small block ford. This is my one chance to really get the tranny I've always wanted. Let me know how you feel about which tranny, and get back to me!!:eh:

[Mr Joshua]

http://www.lencoracing.com/images/lnst1.gif
~J

[irishboom]

:wtf1: One shifter handle only please!

[fiveho]

I'm reading good things about those G-force dog ring/non synchro deals.Straight cut gears with the upgraded shafts and shit supposedly will handle around 900hp depending on the combo.Apparently the gears whine pretty bad,but who cares you don't even have a heater core.So who needs comfort.Pricing is around $2000+.Leaving you a good chunk of cash afterwards for a turbo setup.

[Mr Joshua]

Originally posted by irishboom
:wtf1: One shifter handle only please!
sissy :D
G-Force is in the process of making a t-56 viper upgrade kit that'll handle 900+ ftlbs..
http://www.gforcetransmissions.com/
~J

[WETDRM]

tech section ......how many fucking times you going to post the same fucking thread????????????

[540Malibu]

buy my 4 speed, strongest stick available under a jerico or lenco. it will bolt up to a t-10 bellhousing.

[irishboom]

Spence I found the tranny im buying. Its a g-force t5. It has the straight cut gears and a helical 5th/ od. It is supposed to stand up to 650 lb ft of tourque. thats good enough for me

[540Malibu]

Originally posted by irishboom
Spence I found the tranny im buying. Its a g-force t5. It has the straight cut gears and a helical 5th/ od. It is supposed to stand up to 650 lb ft of tourque. thats good enough for me

still a t-5....i'd get a transmission that was actually designed to get beat on.

[WETDRM]

Originally posted by 540Malibu
still a t-5....i'd get a transmission that was actually designed to get beat on.

for once i agree with the midget....buy a fucking tremec

[Superskwrl]

There is no such thing as a bullet proof transmission, I'b buy and automatic, there aren't to many people who can shift a H pattern stick past 10's in the 1/4


How fast is your car now?

[Mr Joshua]

t-5's now if i remember right, that was origionally made by Borg Warner who is now Tremec, aka TTC?
~J

[Superskwrl]

Originally posted by Black99Cobra
t-5's now if i remember right, that was origionally made by Borg Warner who is now Tremec, aka TTC?
~J

you are 90% correct, Tremec bought some of borg warner's transmission division, and tremec's corporate name is TTC

[01blacksvt]

The G force T5 is built stronger than a tremec, doesn't require a different flywheel, clutch, bellhousing, shifter etc. You don't get that notchy feeling when you shift that a tremec gives you. You don't get the added weight of the tremec. The g force just bolts right in like you were swapping a regular T5. These are all the advantages I can think of, disadvantages would be that they aren't as well known yet as a tremec so flaws in the design may not be known and I think they are more than a tremec.

[Superskwrl]

Originally posted by 01blacksvt
The G force T5 is built stronger than a tremec, doesn't require a different flywheel, clutch, bellhousing, shifter etc.

The G force is a Gearset, that is all, still using the same size input and output shafts as stock. The main difference between the tremec 3550 and TKO is the input/output shafts are much larger.
I have seen quite a few people break the input shaft's on T5's as well as TKO's, however if you dont have a car that makes good power or never agressively drive it, it will most likely never be a problem.
The G force T5 done to the top is almost 2k, The Gforce i believe has no syncro's there for wont be to street friendly
I vote TKO with a twin disk clutch if you have your heart set on a strong "regular" stick that is streetable

[bottledbird68]

Originally posted by Superskwrl
The G force is a Gearset, that is all, still using the same size input and output shafts as stock. The main difference between the tremec 3550 and TKO is the input/output shafts are much larger.
I have seen quite a few people break the input shaft's on T5's as well as TKO's, however if you dont have a car that makes good power or never agressively drive it, it will most likely never be a problem.
The G force T5 done to the top is almost 2k, The Gforce i believe has no syncro's there for wont be to street friendly
I vote TKO with a twin disk clutch if you have your heart set on a strong "regular" stick that is streetable Mike, do yourself a favor here and listen to someone with real world experience and not what the guy on the techline has to say. If you want an example of what I mean just remember how you feel about your heads.... :blush: Just my http://www.inegma.net/mb/html/emoticons/2cents.gif

[irishboom]

Originally posted by Superskwrl
There is no such thing as a bullet proof transmission, I'b buy and automatic, there aren't to many people who can shift a H pattern stick past 10's in the 1/4


How fast is your car now?

once I hit the 10s Ill leave my car alone. By that time Ill make enough money to buy the automatic bad boy.Until then Ill stay with the stick. I know the automatics are the strogest, but my car is only... fingers crossed... going to run mid 12's this year and maybe high 11s with the juice.:thumbsup:

[irishboom]

Originally posted by bottledbird68
Mike, do yourself a favor here and listen to someone with real world experience and not what the guy on the techline has to say. If you want an example of what I mean just remember how you feel about your heads.... :blush: Just my http://www.inegma.net/mb/html/emoticons/2cents.gif


Chicken, you are totally right about the heads ordeal, I should have listened to don and bought the vic jrs for $200 more. I really made a huge mistake by buying them fuckas. Also, what is a "twin disk" clutch. I dont know what he means. :eh:

[WETDRM]

Originally posted by irishboom
once I hit the 10s Ill leave my car alone. By that time Ill make enough money to buy the automatic bad boy.Until then Ill stay with the stick. I know the automatics are the strogest, but my car is only... fingers crossed... going to run mid 12's this year and maybe high 11s with the juice.:thumbsup:

your car should easily run 11s with a shot of juice.......did you decide on as tranny yet?

[Mr Joshua]

this is a twin disk clutch setup :)
http://www.tradezone.com/vette/img/clutch/mcleodparts.JPG
http://www.tradezone.com/vette/mcleod.html
or these guys a have a few selections... :D
http://www.titanmotorsports.com/cluttran1.html
a bit pricey though.. :hmm:
~J

[Superskwrl]

Originally posted by irishboom
once I hit the 10s Ill leave my car alone.

going to run mid 12's this year and maybe high 11s with the juice.:thumbsup:

A TKO with a spec or clutchmaster stage 3 will be fine for that,proably by the time all is said and done about 2300 for parts

i have a T5z and its been in the car for 3 yrs and has made a handful or 10sec Nos pass's and 11's N/A and a ton of 12's on street tires

[irishboom]

Originally posted by Superskwrl
A TKO with a spec or clutchmaster stage 3 will be fine for that,proably by the time all is said and done about 2300 for parts

i have a T5z and its been in the car for 3 yrs and has made a handful or 10sec Nos pass's and 11's N/A and a ton of 12's on street tires



What is a T5z?

[Superskwrl]

Originally posted by irishboom
What is a T5z?

It's the pn# for a world class T5, lots of people call a regular T5 a world class a world class has a 2.95 1st vs the 3.27? of a regular T5, world class/T5z also has a .65 5th vs the .68 of the T5

[irishboom]

My car ate my T5 and all is pointing me in the direction of the TKO:eh: :eh: :eh:

[X]

6-speed

[WETDRM]

Originally posted by DaRam
6-speed

he wants the car mainly for a drag car,so the six speed really isnt worth it.and as far as the T5Z . junk just like all of the T5s made...i blew up three of them inside of 3 months.

[X]

Ah ok. I agree with the Tremec then.

[Superskwrl]

Originally posted by Superskwrl
A TKO with a spec or clutchmaster stage 3 will be fine for that,proably by the time all is said and done about 2300 for parts



:eh:

[irishboom]

http://www.speclutches.com/img/stage3.gif Here is the clutch from spec...the stage 3

[Superskwrl]

Originally posted by irishboom
http://www.speclutches.com/img/stage3.gif Here is the clutch from spec...the stage 3


Does it looks scary:hmm: :eh: ??
Get the stage 2 then, or give them a call

[WETDRM]

Originally posted by irishboom
http://www.speclutches.com/img/stage3.gif Here is the clutch from spec...the stage 3

thats kinda aggresive.......hope you like chatter.

[irishboom]

It should be perfect, man:thumbsup:

[irishboom]

Spec said that it is smooth on the street, and they have guys buy them all of the time:eh: What stage do you think I should get?

[Mr Joshua]

i got a stage 2 in my car, works allright..
~J

[irishboom]

Stage Three
High-clamp pressure plate, 3-piece disc with carbon or ceramic material, bearings and a tool.
ULTIMATE STREET/STRIP CLUTCH!
Sharp but smooth engagement with light pedal

This is right off of the website!:thumbsup:

[irishboom]

http://www.lmperformance.com/images/parts/sf482.jpg

This is the stage two and it has a torque rating of 540 lb.ft....That should be plenty. The main question is how smooth is it?

[Mr Joshua]

smooth..
however, i didn't have time or tools to install it myself the first time, so i had a dealership do it, they fucked it up, so i sent the PP out and had it resurfaced, and waited until i did the t-56 swap, and put it back in, worked fine ever since... the pedal grabs a little high, but a dealership took my car in to run some diag's for me and promply put the car in 6th thinking it was reverse and toasted it lightly... i'll probably go with a different setup if i have to tear it down again...
~J

[irishboom]

What other clutch do you recommend?:thumbsup:

[Mr Joshua]

i don't recomend anything i havn't tried... i guess i'd with a centerforce, MCleod or Spec.. :eh:
~J

[irishboom]

http://www.customracer.com/images/mcleod_picture.gif


Here is the mcleod clutch...The whole setup w/ the billet alum. flywheel is around $850. Is that too steep or is that about normal?

[Superskwrl]

Originally posted by irishboom
http://www.customracer.com/images/mcleod_picture.gif


Here is the mcleod clutch...The whole setup w/ the billet alum. flywheel is around $850. Is that too steep or is that about normal?

Providing thats the twin disk, thats no to bad, you can get 1 with a steel flywheel a lil cheaper

[irishboom]

Im not going to have access to the kind of money I do right now, so im going with the best. Plus the less rotating mass the better. I was told the car will rev alot better and thats what I'm looking for!:thumbsup:

[Superskwrl]

Well if $$ is no object, maybe get a TKOII aka TKO2, has a different 3rd gear and different 5th .85?

Or buy everything from x2cmotorpsorts, they are the 1's who have that turbo 99 with the tremec that ran 8.99, they are advertiser's on Turbomustangs and although i dont belive everything they say lots of people like there stuff

Tell me what you want to do and i'll tell you how to burn your $$:ak1:

[irishboom]

I want to buy a whole trans. setup for some severe duty street/strip driving. I have around $5000 to get the whole setup. I like the 5-speed and the TKOII sounds good to me. One question, can it take an ass kickin' say, from an inexperienced, just learning how to race, driver that may miss a gear or two?...(smirking knowing Im asking about myself):eh:

[Superskwrl]

The difference in all the tranny's is there construction,which is where the strenght comes in,special metal, larger gears/shafts etc. Not there ability to be shifted easily, i know people who have broken lenco's, there is no bullet proof transmission, honestly it seems like you have 5000 to spend on a tranny alone if thats the case buy a spare:eh:

[bottledbird68]

Originally posted by irishboom
Stage Three
High-clamp pressure plate, 3-piece disc with carbon or ceramic material, bearings and a tool.
ULTIMATE STREET/STRIP CLUTCH!
Sharp but smooth engagement with light pedal

This is right off of the website!:thumbsup: Keyword there is "sharp". Again, be careful of what the manufacturer tells you. and listen to people who have experience with them. I'll bet you it's one of those on or off clutches like most of the high end ones. "Smooth" is kind of a relative term just like "streetable", everyone's perception is different. That being said, I'll bet that once you get used to it you won't mind it. Especially with how often you actually drive the car :thumbsup:

[bottledbird68]

Originally posted by irishboom
Im not going to have access to the kind of money I do right now, so im going with the best. Plus the less rotating mass the better. I was told the car will rev alot better and thats what I'm looking for!:thumbsup: Staying a drag car right? Yeah the car will rev better with the aluminum but it will idle better and launch harder with the steel. The heavier flywheel will store more potential energy to get the car going faster off the line, assuming you hook :thumbsup:

[FATBLOCKMARO]

Originally posted by irishboom
http://www.customracer.com/images/mcleod_picture.gif


Here is the mcleod clutch...The whole setup w/ the billet alum. flywheel is around $850. Is that too steep or is that about normal?


MCLEOD IS MOTHER F'ING P-I-M-P:thumbsup:

[Superskwrl]

FATBLOCKMARO, i sent you a pm

[irishboom]

Originally posted by bottledbird68
Keyword there is "sharp". Again, be careful of what the manufacturer tells you. and listen to people who have experience with them. I'll bet you it's one of those on or off clutches like most of the high end ones. "Smooth" is kind of a relative term just like "streetable", everyone's perception is different. That being said, I'll bet that once you get used to it you won't mind it. Especially with how often you actually drive the car :thumbsup:


To tell you the truth I plan on driving the car a whole hell of alot more this summer(next). I just didnt want to drive it too much last year because of that tranny. I knew as soon as I started to really hammer it, the stupid thing wouldn't last too long. I let Eric and Don beat on it one day and it just didn't seem right from then on. As stupid as it sounds, I was scared of that dumbass fuel injection screwing up and leaving me stranded somewhere. Now ill have the carb and won't have to worry so much. If you noticed, I didn't take it on long rides at all. First trip with carb was a ride to conn. that finished off my T5.:thumbsup: :thumbsup: :ak1: T5s

[Grey Poupon]

Originally posted by Superskwrl
The difference in all the tranny's is there construction,which is where the strenght comes in,special metal, larger gears/shafts etc. Not there ability to be shifted easily, i know people who have broken lenco's, there is no bullet proof transmission, honestly it seems like you have 5000 to spend on a tranny alone if thats the case buy a spare:eh:

This man knows what he's talking about...

If you're "only" running 12s (or hoping to run 12s) then would your tranny really be the weak link. It sounds, as others have suggested, that your clutch is blowing up. I would start with a clutch, then when you start running mid 11s look at something else.

Isn't your T5 a WC T5? Are you really making more power and torque then those things are rated for?

In sum: I'm not sure you need a new tranny, see what Superskwrl said.

-N

[WETDRM]

Originally posted by Grey Poupon
This man knows what he's talking about...

If you're "only" running 12s (or hoping to run 12s) then would your tranny really be the weak link. It sounds, as others have suggested, that your clutch is blowing up. I would start with a clutch, then when you start running mid 11s look at something else.

Isn't your T5 a WC T5? Are you really making more power and torque then those things are rated for?

In sum: I'm not sure you need a new tranny, see what Superskwrl said.

-N


first of all the clutch and the flywheel are brand new...and yes hes making way more than enough power to blow up a T5.considering a stock 5.0 has no problem blowing one up.he will need something stronger i just hope hes got the common sense to buy something he can live with on the street.

[Chuckblvd]

Originally posted by Superskwrl
Well if $$ is no object, maybe get a TKOII aka TKO2, has a different 3rd gear and different 5th .85?

Or buy everything from x2cmotorpsorts, they are the 1's who have that turbo 99 with the tremec that ran 8.99, they are advertiser's on Turbomustangs and although i dont belive everything they say lots of people like there stuff

Tell me what you want to do and i'll tell you how to burn your $$:ak1:
Let me tell you somthing about standards scence I grew up in a garage full of them and my old man started all this racing and lite shit in the early 80's.



If you know how to drive you can put a wc T-5 easely in the high 11's and it will last a whole season I know cause I've done it. And the Liberty T-5 I got will go to the mid 10's on all motor.



Most of you dumb ass's dont even know how to adjust a clutch if that aint done right you can blow up anything. If you guys would listen to people who do a specialized trade you might do somthing correct.


Oh buy the way that high 11 had a 1.50 60foot time .


So if any of you fuckers want to talk trannys talk to my customers had over 400 championship wins in oval track. And anyone who no's anything will tell you a Performance Transmission is the best rebuilt tranny you can buy. So all of you can fuck off.






So all you fuckers can spend all the fucking money you want and blow shit up all day long. I'll keep adjusting my clutch and






Sorry to those that know me (had to vent to much BULL SHIT here) yall know I know what I'm talkin bout.





PS: Those TKO's are peices of shit and a waste of money.

[Superskwrl]

I must have read the wrong topic, the topic i read didn't say "my tranny is weak with my 200hp car" it said i have 5k to spend, what tranny?


Can you tell me what about the TKO makes it junk,specifically???

Originally posted by Chuckblvd
Let me tell you somthing about standards scence I grew up in a garage full of them and my old man started all this racing and lite shit in the early 80's.



If you know how to drive you can put a wc T-5 easely in the high 11's and it will last a whole season I know cause I've done it. And the Liberty T-5 I got will go to the mid 10's on all motor.



Most of you dumb ass's dont even know how to adjust a clutch if that aint done right you can blow up anything. If you guys would listen to people who do a specialized trade you might do somthing correct.


Oh buy the way that high 11 had a 1.50 60foot time .


So if any of you fuckers want to talk trannys talk to my customers had over 400 championship wins in oval track. And anyone who no's anything will tell you a Performance Transmission is the best rebuilt tranny you can buy. So all of you can fuck off.






So all you fuckers can spend all the fucking money you want and blow shit up all day long. I'll keep adjusting my clutch and






Sorry to those that know me (had to vent to much BULL SHIT here) yall know I know what I'm talkin bout.





PS: Those TKO's are peices of shit and a waste of money.

[Chuckblvd]

Allright its not a total peice of shit its just a huge waste of money. Its nothing more than a T-5 That is about 10% larger for twice the money. All you need to go low 12's all day long and drive on the street is a correctly rebuilt T-5 with the FMS gear set and steel bearing retainer, Alum. flywheel (not a centerforce overpriced) and a good clutch.
And I hope you dont think this was directed towards you its not. Its just a general bitch towards the reason that I got out of the business. Cause most People just dont listen.

[Superskwrl]

I understand your point, i know this thread is getting long and i don't know if you read the whole thing, but i have a wcT5 in my car and has been in the 10's@3200lbs and i have been using it for 3 years

I do feel if i had the $$ i would buy a tremec, and i would recomend 1 to some1 who is set on something stronger than stock, in all the class's i know of in mustang racing the standard of choice in the tremec, i think if you called Liberty and told them u want a strong syncronized OD, i think they would recomend the tko

Originally posted by Chuckblvd
Allright its not a total peice of shit its just a huge waste of money. Its nothing more than a T-5 That is about 10% larger for twice the money. All you need to go low 12's all day long and drive on the street is a correctly rebuilt T-5 with the FMS gear set and steel bearing retainer, Alum. flywheel (not a centerforce overpriced) and a good clutch.
And I hope you dont think this was directed towards you its not. Its just a general bitch towards the reason that I got out of the business. Cause most People just dont listen.

[Grey Poupon]

Originally posted by Superskwrl
I understand your point, i know this thread is getting long and i don't know if you read the whole thing, but i have a wcT5 in my car and has been in the 10's@3200lbs and i have been using it for 3 years

I do feel if i had the $$ i would buy a tremec, and i would recomend 1 to some1 who is set on something stronger than stock, in all the class's i know of in mustang racing the standard of choice in the tremec, i think if you called Liberty and told them u want a strong syncronized OD, i think they would recomend the tko

I don't remember the WC specs off-hand, but I would be surprised that a car in the 12s would be above them.

It seems silly to spend $5K on a tranny on a car that really probablly doesn't need it.

I think the WC Tranny is rated at least for 300lbs/ft...isn't there also a WC T5 (the Z T5) that's rated at 330lbs/ft. Not sure that you need to get something quite so dramatic.

'Sides anyone who asks for tech advice here, is playing with fire.

-N

[WETDRM]

Originally posted by Grey Poupon

'Sides anyone who asks for tech advice here, is playing with fire.

-N

what the fuck is that supposed to meen? i know more about mustangs than you know about your own sexuality.

[H3llphyre]

Originally posted by GT200MPH
what the fuck is that supposed to meen? i know more about mustangs than you know about your own sexuality.

He's just upset cuz he really knows nothing about cars and bought a prefab-shrink wrapped sports car.

[540Malibu]

i'd like my transmission to last more than a season, and chuck, your not mike, i know your transmission would last, but comeon look who's going to be driving the car......

it'll be like WAAAAAAA GRRRGGGGNKKKKKKCHINKCHINK CLUNK BWAAAAAA as illustrasted by this picture :noise:

[irishboom]

Originally posted by 540Malibu
i'd like my transmission to last more than a season, and chuck, your not mike, i know your transmission would last, but comeon look who's going to be driving the car......

it'll be like WAAAAAAA GRRRGGGGNKKKKKKCHINKCHINK CLUNK BWAAAAAA as illustrasted by this picture :noise:


Spence, its official, I think your a putz when you talk about my driving style :sleep: I never missed a shift or anything, so I dont know what the fuck your talking about. I haven't seen you pro-shifting any cars so I couldn't talk about yours, either.:bash: I didnt break my tranny while shifting so I was just like:eh: when I read this reply!:lame:

[H3llphyre]

Originally posted by irishboom
Spence, its official, I think your a putz when you talk about my driving style :sleep: I never missed a shift or anything, so I dont know what the fuck your talking about. I haven't seen you pro-shifting any cars so I couldn't talk about yours, either.:bash: I didnt break my tranny while shifting so I was just like:eh: when I read this reply!:lame:

Spence can shift, its just getting a ramp truck to stop that he has problems with... And staying out of the breakdown lane... And reaching the pedals...

[FATBLOCKMARO]

Originally posted by H3llphyre
Spence can shift, its just getting a ramp truck to stop that he has problems with... And staying out of the breakdown lane... And reaching the pedals...

LMFAO!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[Superskwrl]

http://www.ttcautomotive.com/English/news/20news.asp