And the first mod IS...... [Archive] - New England Motorsports

Brad S

11-21-2003, 12:18 AM

Originally posted by Badass99RT
a shift light....lol...its a start!

ordered a blue LED Raptor Performance one. the money is now beginning to save again.....WOOHOO:thumbsup:

Yes, good. Mine is yellow.. yes good. PS don't mind ken, he's upset the vette does not have the wiring for a raptor light. FYI when you install that light make sure all switches on it are off, otherwise it will not work. The directions say 1 on 2 off or something, but for our cars its all off.

bottledbird68

11-21-2003, 04:30 AM

Let the modding commence :thumbsup:

03COBRABOY

11-21-2003, 03:14 PM

brad...the < signs makes ur car smaller? usually the OPEN end EATS that side..lol dont u remember math class? lol

DevaROH

11-21-2003, 03:28 PM

hahaha very true! i don't know why i didn't pick up on that earlier

Brad S

11-21-2003, 06:27 PM

Originally posted by Badass99RT
brad...the < signs makes ur car smaller? usually the OPEN end EATS that side..lol dont u remember math class? lol

me>you
you<me

same thing, I'm greater than you. You're suppost to put the greater on the left, but the sign gets the point across, I didnt have photoshop so I couldnt get too much into the editing.

that was just an example.

03COBRABOY

11-21-2003, 11:39 PM

thats better.....i need to make a new siggy..

bassin247

11-22-2003, 02:25 AM

Want to buy a bassani catback for your 03? I'm getting rid of mine because I am putting in a solid axle next week. There is a guy out in CA that wants it, but I would rather sell it locally to avoid shipping it. I paid 700 new and selling it for 450 used.

03COBRABOY

11-22-2003, 02:40 PM

damn..thanks for the offer but im goin axle too...prolly next year some time..

bassin247

11-22-2003, 03:29 PM

are you sticking with the stock catback until then?

03COBRABOY

11-23-2003, 04:29 PM

well as soon as the snow or salt flies the car is parked, and im sure that will be within a few weeks. ill prolly start piecing the axle this winter. i know there are some little things i have to get from ford for the swap. then ill get the exhaust and do it all at once.

your swapping with someone right? what parts did u have to buy? i heard something for the calipers..maybe new u joints?

Mr Joshua

11-23-2003, 04:32 PM

going to keep the old IRS setup?
~J

bassin247

11-23-2003, 04:37 PM

Originally posted by Badass99RT
well as soon as the snow or salt flies the car is parked, and im sure that will be within a few weeks. ill prolly start piecing the axle this winter. i know there are some little things i have to get from ford for the swap. then ill get the exhaust and do it all at once.

your swapping with someone right? what parts did u have to buy? i heard something for the calipers..maybe new u joints?

I'm swapping with a bullitt. I only need new u joints. The guy I'm swapping with picked them up

caliper brackets from a 98 cobra
new pinion flange and u joints
ABS sensors from a GT
exhaust hangers
gt catback

03COBRABOY

11-23-2003, 04:48 PM

what do u have josh?

thanks bassin! whens the swap happening?

bassin247

11-23-2003, 04:51 PM

Next Saturday. This IRS is a curse.

Jake, where in MA are you?

Mr Joshua

11-23-2003, 05:06 PM

IRS is not necessarily a curse... it depends on your preference..
if you wanna drag race and slap 4.56's in and launch on D/R's or slicks then your gonna bust half shafts... like pretzels..
if you like auto-x and occasional trips to the strip.. then it'd be fine.. 3.73's 4.10's 4.30's have all been run in IRS setup's with success, with stock halfshafts, and D/R's. you just have to learn how to launch IRS and limit the wheelhop to an extreem minimum.. no it's not the best setup for drag racing... and it's extra weight to deal with..
~J

Brad S

11-23-2003, 05:39 PM

I think the swap is a waste of money honesly. I like how smooth and pratical the IRS is. My mom's 02 gt has a live axle and its not nearly as good on the street. I guess if you're planning on being a drag superstar the live axle is a start.

bassin247

11-23-2003, 06:28 PM

Originally posted by Brad S
I think the swap is a waste of money honesly. I like how smooth and pratical the IRS is. My mom's 02 gt has a live axle and its not nearly as good on the street. I guess if you're planning on being a drag superstar the live axle is a start.

waste of money? It's going to cost me nothing. The guy is going to give me 150 for a new set of gears because I don't want to 3:27s. I know what a solid axle feels like. In case you forgot, I owned an 00 saleen and a 98 cobra :eh:

Granted the IRS is smoother, but it can not take the high hp/tq applications. Maybe you will sing a new song when you brake a half shaft. Who knows, maybe you won't because you don't drag race it, drive it when it is cold, when it rains, when it snows, and you only race from a roll.

IMO, there is no such thing as "racing from a role". The launch is where the skill comes in. Almost anyone can bang gears at redline. Just because you have a faster car doesn't make you a better racer.

Blackwidow

11-23-2003, 06:35 PM

Originally posted by bassin247

Granted the IRS is smoother, but it can not take the high hp/tq applications. Maybe you will sing a new song when you brake a half shaft. Who knows, maybe you won't because you don't drag race it, drive it when it is cold, when it rains, when it snows, and you only race from a roll.

IMO, there is no such thing as "racing from a role". The launch is where the skill comes in. Almost anyone can bang gears at redline. Just because you have a faster car doesn't make you a better racer.

Damn suckah!

Brad S

11-23-2003, 06:52 PM

Originally posted by bassin247
waste of money? It's going to cost me nothing. The guy is going to give me 150 for a new set of gears because I don't want to 3:27s. I know what a solid axle feels like. In case you forgot, I owned an 00 saleen and a 98 cobra :eh:

Granted the IRS is smoother, but it can not take the high hp/tq applications. Maybe you will sing a new song when you brake a half shaft. Who knows, maybe you won't because you don't drag race it, drive it when it is cold, when it rains, when it snows, and you only race from a roll.

IMO, there is no such thing as "racing from a role". The launch is where the skill comes in. Almost anyone can bang gears at redline. Just because you have a faster car doesn't make you a better racer.

Didnt I already put up a better stock time than you, and dont you have a coupe to my convertible? hehehe. I guess I'm building my car up to make huge dyno numbers and screw on the highway, nothing wrong with that I guess, its just the route I'm going. I'm really losing interested in dragging the car seeing its such a pain getting to epping, and let us not forget waiting in the staging lanes sucks to boot. I used to go twice a week, but I'm just losing interest in it.

03COBRABOY

11-24-2003, 06:29 PM

I'm really losing interested in dragging the car seeing its such a pain getting to epping, and let us not forget waiting in the staging lanes sucks to boot. I used to go twice a week, but I'm just losing interest in it.

thats how ALL tracks are...why build a 600rwhp car if u have no idea what it runs?

"well it goes fast on the highway" SOOOOO

Chuckblvd

11-24-2003, 06:55 PM

Hey man the Taurus gos like a rapped ape on the highway. But wont go for shit at epping maybee its tha hour and 45min ride there in traffic.:eh:

Mr Joshua

11-24-2003, 07:03 PM

Originally posted by bassin247
waste of money? It's going to cost me nothing. The guy is going to give me 150 for a new set of gears because I don't want to 3:27s. I know what a solid axle feels like. In case you forgot, I owned an 00 saleen and a 98 cobra :eh:

Granted the IRS is smoother, but it can not take the high hp/tq applications. Maybe you will sing a new song when you brake a half shaft. Who knows, maybe you won't because you don't drag race it, drive it when it is cold, when it rains, when it snows, and you only race from a roll.

IMO, there is no such thing as "racing from a role". The launch is where the skill comes in. Almost anyone can bang gears at redline. Just because you have a faster car doesn't make you a better racer.
i'd differ with you as far as being able to take high torque/horsepower.. the pumpkin is just an 8.8 with the axle tubes removed and converted to half shafts + CV joints..
upgraded IRS halfshafts have lived under some pretty nasty D/R & Slick launched cobra's...with proper maintinence and regular checks for stress as well as launch tecnique. as far as a waste of $, i wouldn't call it that.. it's a preference.. btw shifting at redline isn't optimum, use your dynograph and SOTP's meter to judge when to shift at what gear.. i shift between 6500-6800 depending on the gear i'm in, to stay in the powerband.. thats with 3.27's and a T-56..
~J

540Malibu

11-24-2003, 07:05 PM

Chuckblvd

11-24-2003, 07:08 PM

Originally posted by 540Malibu
i shift at fuel cut
Thats why you drive your car once a year:smokin:

Mr Joshua

11-24-2003, 07:09 PM

Originally posted by 540Malibu
i shift at fuel cut
totally different motors...
bbc pushrod vs modular DOHC
~J

03COBRABOY

11-24-2003, 07:10 PM

hahahahahaha

540Malibu

11-24-2003, 07:11 PM

Originally posted by Black99Cobra
totally different motors...
bbc pushrod vs modular DOHC
~J

i wasnt talking about my motor, i have no fuel cut, if i had a mustagn i'd shift it 2-1-4-3-R-5

Chuckblvd

11-24-2003, 07:13 PM

lol Thats one hell of a shift pattern. Is that what happened with j-z's car oh ya that never moved sorry:smokin:

540Malibu

11-24-2003, 07:14 PM

Originally posted by Chuckblvd
lol Thats one hell of a shift pattern. Is that what happened with j-z's car oh ya that never moved sorry:smokin:

no, that was all the ford mechanic installing the nitrous kit.

Chuckblvd

11-24-2003, 07:19 PM

Hey man I never touched the juice on that car. But Im just fuckin round. Now what Feral did that was some shit.

540Malibu

11-24-2003, 07:21 PM

Originally posted by Chuckblvd
Hey man I never touched the juice on that car. But Im just fuckin round. Now what Feral did that was some shit.
i was talking about jim.

Chuckblvd

11-24-2003, 07:22 PM

OH Ya I forgot he did work at a Ford dealer oppsy:blush:

bassin247

11-24-2003, 09:20 PM

Originally posted by Black99Cobra
i'd differ with you as far as being able to take high torque/horsepower.. the pumpkin is just an 8.8 with the axle tubes removed and converted to half shafts + CV joints..
upgraded IRS halfshafts have lived under some pretty nasty D/R & Slick launched cobra's...with proper maintinence and regular checks for stress as well as launch tecnique. as far as a waste of $, i wouldn't call it that.. it's a preference.. btw shifting at redline isn't optimum, use your dynograph and SOTP's meter to judge when to shift at what gear.. i shift between 6500-6800 depending on the gear i'm in, to stay in the powerband.. thats with 3.27's and a T-56..
~J

The outboard stub shaft can't handle the hp/tq. There are shitloads of guys on svtperformance.com and modularfords.com that are breaking halfshafts. Sure they might hang for a few runs at the drag strip, just talk to Joe Lynch (IRS expert) and see what he thinks about the IRS at the drag strip. You can't even compare short times and breakage frequency is a lot higher with the IRS.

Look my my dynograph in my sig. Shifting at redline is optimum. Max hp and almost max torque.

Mr Joshua

11-24-2003, 09:23 PM

read this, it'll explain everything about IRS and launching...
http://www.lx.net/jlynch/
i'v talked to joe before...
breakage is always going to be higher with IRS.. it's just not built for dragracing..
looking at your dynograph you HP climbs w/o falling... but your torque climbs sharply till 2krpm, then platforms, hit peak right around 4.3k rpm's then trails off slowly... if it were me i'd shift around 6.2k definatly before 6.5k.. you're hitting the trailing edge of your torque band.. i'd want to stay deeper in... by redline your down below 400trq when you shift your back around 5.7k-6.2k and your torques falling again.. :eh:
~J

bassin247

11-24-2003, 10:05 PM

Originally posted by Black99Cobra
read this, it'll explain everything about IRS and launching...
http://www.lx.net/jlynch/
i'v talked to joe before...
breakage is always going to be higher with IRS.. it's just not built for dragracing..
looking at your dynograph you HP climbs w/o falling... but your torque climbs sharply till 2krpm, then platforms, hit peak right around 4.3k rpm's then trails off slowly... if it were me i'd shift around 6.2k definatly before 6.5k.. you're hitting the trailing edge of your torque band.. i'd want to stay deeper in... by redline your down below 400trq when you shift your back around 5.7k-6.2k and your torques falling again.. :eh:
~J

I've read that site before and talked with him on occasion. Thanks.

At the track shifting at 6400 gets better et and shifting lower nets me better trap. I'll stick with the 6400.

Mr Joshua

11-25-2003, 01:45 AM

if it works, then i'd stick with it :thumbsup:
stock 3.55's?
~J

bassin247

11-25-2003, 01:49 AM

Originally posted by Black99Cobra
if it works, then i'd stick with it :thumbsup:
stock 3.55's?
~J

yea, i'm putting 3:73s in the solid. I'm going to cruise around with the 3:27s until march when I have the diff, axles, lcas, shocks, struts, srpings, and gears replaced.