Procharger info....

[Brad S]

Welp, I'm ditching the kenne bell I think. The procharger system is about to come out, and its going to be ALOT less than the kenne bell. This gives me room to dump enough money into a good fuel system to feed the car. The only problem is the install seems like its going to be over my head, would anyone be willing to help a little after xmas? I wanna plan this all out right now. The only things I don't think I can figure out are tapping the oil pan, I just dont have the tools or the experience, and upgrading the fuel system. I'm assuming it would take about 8 hours to install. @14 pounds its suppost to make over 650RWHP, thats at 14 pounds which is no where near its max which is in the mid 20#'s. I think another key point to this blower is while its going to make alot of power, its torque is going to be right around what I have now, which is key seeing the IRS is a POS. The kenne bell makes about 700 pound feet at 17 PSI and making just about 600RWHP, IRS go boom on the launch. Plue the kenne bell is near its potential at that level. With this blower I could make the perfect amount of torque at a low rpm to get me out of the hole, then at 4000+ RPM I'd have the potential to be in the 750RWHP range. I guess I would need to come over someones house and use the garage too. Prob in the next 3 months this will happen, thanx guys.

[540Malibu]

just about all of the ATI kits now are self contained so i dont think tapping the oil pan will be an issue. The good thing about centrifugals is that to torque and hp increase exponentially instead of in a linear fashion, this makes it MUCH easier on the motor and every other piece of the drivetrain...AND it makes it a hell of alot easier to launch under boost. Which model is it they are going to offer?

[Brad S]

Originally posted by 540Malibu
just about all of the ATI kits now are self contained so i dont think tapping the oil pan will be an issue. The good thing about centrifugals is that to torque and hp increase exponentially instead of in a linear fashion, this makes it MUCH easier on the motor and every other piece of the drivetrain...AND it makes it a hell of alot easier to launch under boost. Which model is it they are going to offer?

I dont know, but this is what it looks like at sema, I'm going to get on the phone with them tomorrow and talk numbers. I can honestly tell you I don't know a damn thing about these blowers, but from what I have just started reading it seems like a better fit than the kenne bell for me. Although it does look its going to be a pain to install, you gotta move everything around in there. Also thanks for your post. what you said seems to be right on par with with the tuner of this car has been saying which is def cool.

http://www.mustangmods.com/data/1671/dsc01439_medium.jpg

[Blackwidow]

DONT DO IT
:ak1:

[Brad S]

Originally posted by Lil RedCorvette
DONT DO IT
:ak1:

Why?

[540Malibu]

got any pics of a factory engine bay?

[Brad S]

Originally posted by 540Malibu
got any pics of a factory engine bay?

eh its not that bad, looks like the only thing that is moved it the intercooler res, not a biggy.

http://microfuture.net/03Cobra/July_8_02/P1010073.JPG

[Mr Joshua]

i can't loan the use of a garage, but i'd help ya out with the install..
~J

[Brad S]

Originally posted by Black99Cobra
i can't loan the use of a garage, but i'd help ya out with the install..
~J

Cool. I got on the phone with them today and left a message asking them when it would it be ready. I'm prob going with it.

[TunedPort 335]

Brad that ATI kit looks awesome. I like the polished setup. What series is it, D1 or so?? Or is it completley different from all the others.

[igotasweetride]

you're swapping the eaton for a centrifigul?? why dont you just buy a GT and put a blower on it??? you're killing everything that makes the car a cobra






sound familar? :lol:


if you can find a car, i could do the install blindfolded. ive never done one before, but that never stops be with other people's cars :lol: seriously though, i've never killed anything and most blower installs are basic, tapping the oil pan is easy, you just gotta get a new gasket to drop it. :thumbsup:

[Mr Joshua]

i don't think i'd tap the oilpan, even if i had to, which he shouldn't with the ATI kit..
personally i'd take the pan off, drill a hole and braze a nipple on it..
metal shavings + oil = bad..
~J

[02"laser" Red]

Originally posted by Black99Cobra
i don't think i'd tap the oilpan, even if i had to, which he shouldn't with the ATI kit..
personally i'd take the pan off, drill a hole and braze a nipple on it..
metal shavings + oil = bad..
~J

Agreed you should check out the vortech intall article on stangnet, it says to use a punch to make the hole, and you should guess when the hole is the right size for tapping, what a dumbass thing. Shit I wouldn't feel comfortable doing that and I'm a pro.

[igotasweetride]

Originally posted by Black99Cobra
i don't think i'd tap the oilpan, even if i had to, which he shouldn't with the ATI kit..
personally i'd take the pan off, drill a hole and braze a nipple on it..
metal shavings + oil = bad..
~J

pleeeaaasseeee do me a favor, i know you're slow cause you own a mustang and all :lol: but i said he would need a new gasket. drilling and tapping of the oil pan ALWAYS should be done with the oil pan off the car. drilling and tapping doesnt mean it stays on the car, it means you drill a hole in the metal and tap the threads into it with a tapping kit. its the safest way to put in an oil line in the pan and the most reliable.:thumbsup:

[Mr Joshua]

:lol:
i read it, and decided to reiterate.....
i'd never tap the hole in an oilpan, especially after drilling it... not enought metal for threads...
like "02"laser" Red" said, they recomend punching a hole for a reason, more metal for the threads to grab...
but it still doesn't give me the warm fuzzy...
like i said, if it were my pan, i'd still drill and braze a nipple on it.. imo :thumbsup:
~J

[02"laser" Red]

Originally posted by Black99Cobra
:lol:
i read it, and decided to reiterate.....
i'd never tap the hole in an oilpan, especially after drilling it... not enought metal for threads...
they recomend punching a hole for a reason, more metal for the threads to grab...
but it still doesn't give me the warm fuzzy...
like i said, if it were my pan, i'd still drill and braze a nipple on it.. imo :thumbsup:
~J

Exactly, not too much trouble droping the pan, and brazing is simple enough:thumbsup:

[Mr Joshua]

Originally posted by 02"laser" Red
Exactly, not too much trouble droping the pan, and brazing is simple enough:thumbsup:
yup, just like advanced soldering.. :smokin:
~J

[Brad S]

Originally posted by igotasweetride
you're swapping the eaton for a centrifigul?? why dont you just buy a GT and put a blower on it??? you're killing everything that makes the car a cobra






sound familar? :lol:


if you can find a car, i could do the install blindfolded. ive never done one before, but that never stops be with other people's cars :lol: seriously though, i've never killed anything and most blower installs are basic, tapping the oil pan is easy, you just gotta get a new gasket to drop it. :thumbsup:

I'm swapping the eaton because the more I read about this, the more attractive it seems. Less harsh on the motor, runs super cool, and can boost well into the 20#'s. Also the eaton does not use the intercooler to its potential, with this the intercooler gets a better chance to do its job. If I bought a GT and slapped the blower on it at 14 pounds it would prob split the block, hehe. Either way I called them today and its selfcontained and its a 100% direct bolt. So when I order I'm going to pick up an 8 pound pulley for it, then in the spring I'm going to buy a fuel system and drop a 17 pounder on it. Also I just got a huge polished heat exchanger for the front. This is going to be some project for someone who's never done it. Everyone is helping. haha.

[Mr Joshua]

there are pro's and cons to both systems...
depends on how you want your car to perform..
"huge polished heat exchanger " :thumbsup: got any pics?
~J
P.S. so do i get a deal on the eaton m112 and extra parts? :D:smokin:

[Brad S]

Originally posted by Black99Cobra
there are pro's and cons to both systems...
depends on how you want your car to perform..
"huge polished heat exchanger " :thumbsup: got any pics?
~J
P.S. so do i get a deal on the eaton m112 and extra parts? :D:smokin:

its suppost to drop the motor temp another 32 degrees


and yeah we can work some stuff out with the eaton.click (http://www.svtperformance.com/forums/attachment.php?s=&postid=745482)

[Mr Joshua]

http://bewilderment.geeksanon.ca/pics/intercooler.jpg
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:thumbsup:
~J

[Brad S]

Originally posted by Black99Cobra
http://bewilderment.geeksanon.ca/pics/intercooler.jpg
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:thumbsup:
~J

yeah, thats it, 32 degree drop, plus a centrifugal running cold as it is means alot of power.

[germantoy]

jesus christ all kidding with you aside just do it for the fucken 32 degree drop thats fucking insanely impressive. The only thing (yes id be willing to help put it on) is the relocation of what looks to be the coolant overflow resevoir. And all the associated piping. Is this something thats going to be included or is this custom fab? And drilling and tapping the pan is the pussy way to do it. Ill show you my vw block, You drill and tap into the bottom of the block and feed the return line into it, this prevents "foamed" oil. Callaway turbo systems showed me this and they know what the fuck they are talking about

[Brad S]

Originally posted by germantoy
jesus christ all kidding with you aside just do it for the fucken 32 degree drop thats fucking insanely impressive. The only thing (yes id be willing to help put it on) is the relocation of what looks to be the coolant overflow resevoir. And all the associated piping. Is this something thats going to be included or is this custom fab? And drilling and tapping the pan is the pussy way to do it. Ill show you my vw block, You drill and tap into the bottom of the block and feed the return line into it, this prevents "foamed" oil. Callaway turbo systems showed me this and they know what the fuck they are talking about

Its suppost to be a complete kit, thanks for the post. I'll let you know as soon as I get ALL the information.

[Mr Joshua]

Originally posted by germantoy
jesus christ all kidding with you aside just do it for the fucken 32 degree drop thats fucking insanely impressive. The only thing (yes id be willing to help put it on) is the relocation of what looks to be the coolant overflow resevoir. And all the associated piping. Is this something thats going to be included or is this custom fab? And drilling and tapping the pan is the pussy way to do it. Ill show you my vw block, You drill and tap into the bottom of the block and feed the return line into it, this prevents "foamed" oil. Callaway turbo systems showed me this and they know what the fuck they are talking about
i'd like to see just where you'd intend to drill and tap the block on an iron 4.6L modular motor... :hmm: i agree that punching and tapping the pan is a half assed way to set it up.. but.... i won't hold my breath on the whole drilling and tapping the block, until i see proof on a modular 4.6L
~J

[2manytickets]

Ive installed one of these systems in a customer lt1, very nice system, install wasnt a bitch compares to most "bolt on" kits. Huge power increase

[Brad S]

Originally posted by 2manytickets
Ive installed one of these systems in a customer lt1, very nice system, install wasnt a bitch compares to most "bolt on" kits. Huge power increase

Let me ask you this, Will I need to jack the car up? I have the car in a garage tent on gravel which means I can't jack it, but I also want to start parting out the motor parts I dont need. If I part out the motor I wont be able to move it until I get the new blower on, so can I do it without the car jacked up?

[Mr Joshua]

it's always adventagious to be able to jack the car up...
a lift would be sweet.. i'll make sure to nab some mexican creepers from work... so the gravel won't be such a bitch.. :D
~J

[igotasweetride]

Originally posted by Brad S
Let me ask you this, Will I need to jack the car up? I have the car in a garage tent on gravel which means I can't jack it, but I also want to start parting out the motor parts I dont need. If I part out the motor I wont be able to move it until I get the new blower on, so can I do it without the car jacked up?


you can jack it up on gravel, i do it all the time, you just have to be careful when you do it.

[2manytickets]

Yeah I had to put it up, this was over a year ago so my memort is foggy about it at best. Fortunately I have a lift so it makes life easier:)

[igotasweetride]

Originally posted by 2manytickets
Yeah I had to put it up, this was over a year ago so my memort is foggy about it at best. Fortunately I have a lift so it makes life easier:)

ok, you have a lift and you're in pembroke? :hitit2: hi, my name is bryan and i am your new best friend :thumbsup:

[Superskwrl]

FWIW i can get the super deal on vortech/paxton stuff if any1 want anything from either company

[X]

What kind of a deal?

[Superskwrl]

Originally posted by DaRam
What kind of a deal?

i doubt you'll find it cheaper, get me the exact pn# and the best price and give me a few days to get exact #'s

EDIT: please let me know if its cash or charge

[X]

Sent you in a pm

[igotasweetride]

Originally posted by Superskwrl
i doubt you'll find it cheaper, get me the exact pn# and the best price and give me a few days to get exact #'s

EDIT: please let me know if its cash or charge


how do you get stuff soo cheap? are you a vendor? if i can get it cheaper, do i get it for free? :thumbsup:

[Superskwrl]

Originally posted by igotasweetride
if i can get it cheaper, do i get it for free? :thumbsup:


No, I'll pay you to take it:ak1: :wtf1: :bash:

[igotasweetride]

Originally posted by Superskwrl
No, I'll pay you to take it:ak1: :wtf1: :bash:


sweet, how much???? :lol: