"LIL" stuff for the '03

[03COBRABOY]

so i was given these two things by the svt guys for one. can someone explain this to me? im new to this..:eh:

i know it has to do with settin the clutch but is it worth it?

Firewall adjuster and Triple Quadrant (http://www.uprproducts.com/shopping/shopdisplayproducts.asp?id=126.)

[Mr Joshua]

easy to install
i'v got one on mine...
it takes the plastic adjustable quadrant, and replaces it with the aluminum peice, and the firewall adjuster is what adjusts the cable instead of the plastic peice like before..
you'll need some washers to space out the new quadrant if it's made like the steeda one i have was..
~J

[WETDRM]

Originally posted by Badass99RT
so i was given these two things by the svt guys for one. can someone explain this to me? im new to this..:eh:

i know it has to do with settin the clutch but is it worth it?

Firewall adjuster and Triple Quadrant (http://www.uprproducts.com/shopping/shopdisplayproducts.asp?id=126.)

it is very worth it.....its only a matter of time till the plastic one breaks...plus dialing in your clutch to where you like it is a good option to have.

[DevaROH]

worth it!!! i just put one in mine when i did my cluth this summer. i would suggest getting the triple quadrant from UPR Products along with the firewall adjustment. and if you get them and need a hand just give me a call :thumbsup:

[fiveho]

Before you do anything to that car,go buy a Pro5.0 shifter.Do not,I repeat,do not power shift that car with the stock shifter.You will fuck up a strong transmission.The Pro5.0 shifter has a steel shock ring and handle as opposed to aluminum on on all other aftermarket shifters.That alone is why you should buy one.I know some people prefer the steeda tri-ax for being a little smoother.But let me ask you this,have you ever seen an aluminum hammer?I haven't.It's the best 200 dollars you'll ever spend on this car.

[H3llphyre]

Originally posted by fiveho
Before you do anything to that car,go buy a Pro5.0 shifter.Do not,I repeat,do not power shift that car with the stock shifter.You will fuck up a strong transmission.The Pro5.0 shifter has a steel shock ring and handle as opposed to aluminum on on all other aftermarket shifters.That alone is why you should buy one.I know some people prefer the steeda tri-ax for being a little smoother.But let me ask you this,have you ever seen an aluminum hammer?I haven't.It's the best 200 dollars you'll ever spend on this car.

And they have one for a T-56?

[540Malibu]

if the car shifts now i wouldnt fuck with it.

[540Malibu]

Originally posted by fiveho
Before you do anything to that car,go buy a Pro5.0 shifter.Do not,I repeat,do not power shift that car with the stock shifter.You will fuck up a strong transmission.The Pro5.0 shifter has a steel shock ring and handle as opposed to aluminum on on all other aftermarket shifters.That alone is why you should buy one.I know some people prefer the steeda tri-ax for being a little smoother.But let me ask you this,have you ever seen an aluminum hammer?I haven't.It's the best 200 dollars you'll ever spend on this car.

aftermarket shfiters are wastes of money, if YOU cant learn how to shift, dont blame the shifter.

[fiveho]

Originally posted by 540Malibu
aftermarket shfiters are wastes of money, if YOU cant learn how to shift, dont blame the shifter. You ever here of bent shift forks?That's what will happen with a shifter that doesn't have positive stops.It's added insurance against damage.I don't care how good you are at shifting,you will bend that shit up with a stock shifter.

[fiveho]

Originally posted by H3llphyre
And they have one for a T-56? Yes they do.

[Mr Joshua]

actually if i remember right some transmissions, have positive stops built in...
heres the rebuild manual for a t-56
http://www.ttcautomotive.com/English/media/pdfs_autogen/T-56_Service_Manual.pdf
i'd skim it, but i'm on lunch..
btw, i'v got a Pro 5.0 on my t-56
~J

[grygst76]

Originally posted by fiveho
You ever here of bent shift forks?That's what will happen with a shifter that doesn't have positive stops.It's added insurance against damage.I don't care how good you are at shifting,you will bend that shit up with a stock shifter. Actually, bent forks are from people who drive with their hand FIRMLY on the shifter at all times...:thumbsup:

Posisitve stops are incorporated now because of "overshifting" and they are standard equipment. Learning to drive a stick with the stock stick gives a more happier driving experience:worship2:

[540Malibu]

Originally posted by fiveho
You ever here of bent shift forks?That's what will happen with a shifter that doesn't have positive stops.It's added insurance against damage.I don't care how good you are at shifting,you will bend that shit up with a stock shifter.

you only need stops if you keep pushing after its in gear.....you sound like one fo thsoe drivers that try to rip the shifter out in every gear.

[Feral]

I have a short throw with no stops and I'm a fucking animal and have not bent a shift fork yet. Let me reiterate ... I am a fucking animal ... and not bent forks in my jap-crap tranny.

[Brad S]

The t56 does have built in stops.

[fiveho]

Originally posted by 540Malibu
you only need stops if you keep pushing after its in gear.....you sound like one fo thsoe drivers that try to rip the shifter out in every gear. Actually i don't.When powershifting,I put just a slight pressure on the shifter to preload it in the direction of each gear.This enables me to get the shifter out of one gear and into the next very fast.For example,shifting first to second,I put just a little downward pressure on the handle.When the shift lite comes on I am in second gear as soon as the clutch releases.Literally a split second.Second to third,same thing.Only it's a slight upwoard pressure.Get the picture?The shock ring and bolts on my Pro5.0 prevent me from ever overextending my shift forks.I don't even think about it anymore.Now back to the subject at hand.Do you really want to rely on the stops built into your transmission?I don't care if your gearbox was built by the almighty himself.It can and will break if you drive hard.Why take a chance?Ask my buddy Scott,02laser red,he's got an 02'GT.The stock shifter in his car sucked ass.First thing he did was put a pro5.0 in it and it made all the difference in the world.All my freinds run aftermarket shifters.For the same reason.Learning how to drive a stock shifter will not make your driving experience more enjoyable.It makes it more notchy and less precise.Any aftermarket shifter is an upgrade over what came in your car.Don't risk bending a t-56.Unless eating $2500 dollars looks good to you.Do the math,$200 now or $2500 later.It's a no brainer.Oh,and to all you GM and import guys out there,have any of you shifted a 5.0 or a 4.6 with a stock shifter and then an aftermarket?If so,you would understand where I am coming from.Ford shifters have always sucked.

[DevaROH]

i will just say that when i had my '88 lx the best thing i bought was the pro 5.0 shifter. well cause a T5 tranny SUCKS!! so because i had already bought my '95 before i sold it, i took the shifter out the next day after i got my car, and put it right in. i love this thing. i for one think that every standard car should have one. for me it just made life easier. well because mostly of the the miss shift from 2nd to 3rd in the T5's. i really don't know about the t-56. oh well, just my $.02

[540Malibu]

ive shifted both in a mustang and wouldnt waste my money on an aftermarket shifter. unless its an inline smashbox design. as far it being notchy, the onyl thing that would caus a shifter to be notchy is being worn out to rods inside the transmission move no different depending on what shifter you have, the transmission could care less.

[Mr Joshua]

jake, if you wanna know how the Pro 5.0 feels on a t-56 just take my car for a spin...
~J

[H3llphyre]

Originally posted by Feral
I have a short throw with no stops and I'm a fucking animal and have not bent a shift fork yet. Let me reiterate ... I am a fucking animal ... and not bent forks in my jap-crap tranny.

Haha, oh, i think i remember a time when the shifter was broken... LOL. Don't tell me you haven't broken a shifter... just not the fork.

[02"laser" Red]

Originally posted by 540Malibu
ive shifted both in a mustang and wouldnt waste my money on an aftermarket shifter. unless its an inline smashbox design. as far it being notchy, the onyl thing that would caus a shifter to be notchy is being worn out to rods inside the transmission move no different depending on what shifter you have, the transmission could care less.


I also have a pro 5.0 shifter, and they are 10 times better period, no argument, and I have been driving fast cars for over ten years and it's always better to have than not. As far as needing it because I can't shift, anytime anyone her want to test who can shift faster and more accurate, softer anything you want, line up. The tremec trannies are known for weak forks, The very first thing you do Badass99RT is get one. then get a blowzilla


:smokin:

[03COBRABOY]

well didnt this turn into a good thread....how about i say this.

i want precise, accurate and quick shifts..what should i do?? haha

[02"laser" Red]

Originally posted by Badass99RT
well didnt this turn into a good thread....how about i say this.

i want precise, accurate and quick shifts..what should i do?? haha

If I see you this weekend at the party I will let you check mine out too. It's like installing a new trannie, and it takes all of 20 minutes if that.

[Mr Joshua]

all the shifters use pretty much the same pivot point as stock,
the only real difference is in the materials used, and the length of metal after the pivot ball, as well as the handle.. and the construction of the pivot ball itself... some use teflon pivot balls, others use steel, if i remember right the tri-ax uses a teflon pivot ball and the pro 5.0 uses all steel with grease lube.. also the tri-ax is one peice alimunim base, and the pro 5.0 is a aluminum base, with steel ring.. and of course positive stops..
~J

[Mr Joshua]

Originally posted by 02"laser" Red
If I see you this weekend at the party I will let you check mine out too. It's like installing a new trannie, and it takes all of 20 minutes if that.
heh, i'v gotten it down to a science, 10-15 minutes tops.. :D
hardest part is breaking the seal on the stock shifter and cleaning off the tranny for the new seal...
if he got one before the party we could hook him up with an install..
~J

[fiveho]

Originally posted by Black99Cobra
i'v gotten it down to a science, about 10-15 minutes.. :D
hardest part is breaking the seal on the stock shifter and cleaning it off the tranny for the new seal..
if he got one before the party we could hook him up with an install right then and there...
~J So easily.:thumbsup:

[TunedPort 335]

Originally posted by Badass99RT
well didnt this turn into a good thread....how about i say this.

i want precise, accurate and quick shifts..what should i do?? haha

Get an automatic :eh:

[02"laser" Red]

Originally posted by Black99Cobra
heh, i'v gotten it down to a science, 10-15 minutes tops.. :D
hardest part is breaking the seal on the stock shifter and cleaning off the tranny for the new seal...
if he got one before the party we could hook him up with an install..
~J

I just grab on to that sumbitch and fucking yank it out :smokin:
Hell ya between you fiveho and I we would make short work of it.

[Mr Joshua]

:smokin: hell yea.. :thumbsup:
~J

[Brad S]

The shifter on our t56 is never going to be smooth like silk. Get either a pro 5.0 or a steeda Tri ax. Both reduce shift distance by around 30%, and both will pretty much find 3rd everytime. Whem I'm at the track when I'm going for 3rd I just push up real fast and I've never missed 3rd. Way way way better than the stock shit, which feels like its going to break in half when you slam the gears.

[DevaROH]

Originally posted by TunedPort 335
Get an automatic :eh: A: cobras don't come auto. B: anyone who drives an auto mustang really doesn't care about going fast.

[540Malibu]

Originally posted by Badass99RT
well didnt this turn into a good thread....how about i say this.

i want precise, accurate and quick shifts..what should i do?? haha

keep the stocker and learn how to shift.

[540Malibu]

Originally posted by 02"laser" Red
I also have a pro 5.0 shifter, and they are 10 times better period, no argument, and I have been driving fast cars for over ten years and it's always better to have than not. As far as needing it because I can't shift, anytime anyone her want to test who can shift faster and more accurate, softer anything you want, line up. The tremec trannies are known for weak forks, The very first thing you do Badass99RT is get one. then get a blowzilla


:smokin:

i doubt you want to make that bet because more than half of chicken racing would hand you your ass. even with stock shifters

[Brad S]

While malibu knows his shit, you still want an aftermarket shifter. A master of the stock shifter still couldnt shift faster then a normal guy banging the gears on a tri ax or 5.0. Its simple, with the aftermarket shifters you've just got less distance from gear to gear, which makes your runs faster. Also the stock shifter is cheap plastic, the tri ax is a quality piece.

[540Malibu]

Originally posted by Brad S
While malibu knows his shit, you still want an aftermarket shifter. A master of the stock shifter still couldnt shift faster then a normal guy banging the gears on a tri ax or 5.0. Its simple, with the aftermarket shifters you've just got less distance from gear to gear, which makes your runs faster. Also the stock shifter is cheap plastic, the tri ax is a quality piece.

i havent felt the shifters on the new ones yet, if it is plastic i'd dump it just because it will snap.

[Brad S]

Originally posted by 540Malibu
i havent felt the shifters on the new ones yet, if it is plastic i'd dump it just because it will snap.

Its not all plastic, but there is a fair amount of it, its pretty crappy.

[H3llphyre]

Originally posted by Brad S
its pretty crappy.

Well, it IS a mustang...

[bottledbird68]

Originally posted by fiveho
Oh,and to all you GM and import guys out there,have any of you shifted a 5.0 or a 4.6 with a stock shifter and then an aftermarket?If so,you would understand where I am coming from.Ford shifters have always sucked. Uh huh, I know exactly where you are coming from. I've personally seen the inside of a T-5 that a certain mustang owning friend of mine had that used the stock shifter. One day it stopped shifting. We pulled it, brought it to our tranny guy and he cracked the case open. First words out of his mouth were "Where the hell is the other shift fork?" Seems it completely disintegrated and turned itself into aluminum powder. There was no part of it left, strangest thing I've ever seen......


Jake, go get the Pro 5.0. Trust me and the mustang guys, you won't regret it :thumbsup:

[02"laser" Red]

Originally posted by 540Malibu
i doubt you want to make that bet because more than half of chicken racing would hand you your ass. even with stock shifters


Kid you don't even know me, so before you whip your nuts out and act cool you should get to know me first. Do you own a newer Mustang? no I do and so does 99 Cobra we are speaking from owning them not just talking shit, yes your malibu is faster than my stock GT, anytime you want to jump into a stock GT and try to hand me my ass let me know. :smokin: I was power shifting Muscle cars when you were still learning how to piss standing up:thumbsup:

[02"laser" Red]

Originally posted by bottledbird68
Uh huh, I know exactly where you are coming from. I've personally seen the inside of a T-5 that a certain mustang owning friend of mine had that used the stock shifter. One day it stopped shifting. We pulled it, brought it to our tranny guy and he cracked the case open. First words out of his mouth were "Where the hell is the other shift fork?" Seems it completely disintegrated and turned itself into aluminum powder. There was no part of it left, strangest thing I've ever seen......


Jake, go get the Pro 5.0. Trust me and the mustang guys, you won't regret it :thumbsup:


I ahve heard of that heppening on Stangnet to three month old tremecs, it's just the nature of the beast.

[WETDRM]

Originally posted by bottledbird68
Uh huh, I know exactly where you are coming from. I've personally seen the inside of a T-5 that a certain mustang owning friend of mine had that used the stock shifter. One day it stopped shifting. We pulled it, brought it to our tranny guy and he cracked the case open. First words out of his mouth were "Where the hell is the other shift fork?" Seems it completely disintegrated and turned itself into aluminum powder. There was no part of it left, strangest thing I've ever seen......


Jake, go get the Pro 5.0. Trust me and the mustang guys, you won't regret it :thumbsup:


:blush: :blush: :blush: :blush: :eh: :)

[Mr Joshua]

Originally posted by 02"laser" Red
Kid you don't even know me, so before you whip your nuts out and act cool you should get to know me first. Do you own a newer Mustang? no I do and so does 99 Cobra we are speaking from owning them not just talking shit, yes your malibu is faster than my stock GT, anytime you want to jump into a stock GT and try to hand me my ass let me know. :smokin: I was power shifting Muscle cars when you were still learning how to piss standing up:thumbsup:
actually this is my third 99+ mustang...
sold the 99v6
sold the 00GT
and i'v got the 99 cobra...
had a pro 5.0 on the GT and now the cobra..
havn't had a chance to try a Tri-Ax...
but the Pro 5.0 definatly is of much greater quality than stock...
less leverage, than the stocker, due to the shorter handle..
for a good driver, pull for pull, the difference in shifting speed you'll see between the two is neglagable..
aftermarket shifters have a stronger spring, for finding 3rd..
i'd definatly go with Pro 5.0
~J

[TunedPort 335]

Originally posted by 95stang50
A: cobras don't come auto. B: anyone who drives an auto mustang really doesn't care about going fast.

A. I was kidding.
B. Thats why I used that smiley

:thumbsup:

[DevaROH]

Originally posted by TunedPort 335
A. I was kidding.
B. Thats why I used that smiley

:thumbsup: baaah:thumbsup:

[fiveho]

Originally posted by 540Malibu
i havent felt the shifters on the new ones yet, if it is plastic i'd dump it just because it will snap. Come on dude, stick to your guns.Don't backtrack.That's weak.

[fiveho]

Originally posted by Black99Cobra
actually this is my third 99+ mustang...
sold the 99v6
sold the 00GT
and i'v got the 99 cobra...
had a pro 5.0 on the GT and now the cobra..
havn't had a chance to try a Tri-Ax...
but the Pro 5.0 definatly is of much greater quality than stock...
less leverage, than the stocker, due to the shorter handle..
for a good driver, pull for pull, the difference in shifting speed you'll see between the two is neglagable..
aftermarket shifters have a stronger spring, for finding 3rd..
i'd definatly go with Pro 5.0
~J 02lasered wasn't refering to you.:thumbsup:

[02"laser" Red]

Originally posted by Black99Cobra
actually this is my third 99+ mustang...
sold the 99v6
sold the 00GT
and i'v got the 99 cobra...
had a pro 5.0 on the GT and now the cobra..
havn't had a chance to try a Tri-Ax...
but the Pro 5.0 definatly is of much greater quality than stock...
less leverage, than the stocker, due to the shorter handle..
for a good driver, pull for pull, the difference in shifting speed you'll see between the two is neglagable..
aftermarket shifters have a stronger spring, for finding 3rd..
i'd definatly go with Pro 5.0
~J

Yup, it doesn't help you be a better driver, it just insures you won't bend any crappy forks. :thumbsup:

[Mr Joshua]

Originally posted by fiveho
02lasered wasn't refering to you.:thumbsup:
i felt like playin to the crowd.. :smokin:
~J

[540Malibu]

Originally posted by 02"laser" Red
Kid you don't even know me, so before you whip your nuts out and act cool you should get to know me first. Do you own a newer Mustang? no I do and so does 99 Cobra we are speaking from owning them not just talking shit, yes your malibu is faster than my stock GT, anytime you want to jump into a stock GT and try to hand me my ass let me know. :smokin: I was power shifting Muscle cars when you were still learning how to piss standing up:thumbsup:

anyone who power-shifts doesnt know how to shift. i may not know you but you sure as hell dont know me, cuz if you did you'd know i can shift damn near any stick as fast or faster than a stock auto.

[fiveho]

Originally posted by 540Malibu
anyone who power-shifts doesnt know how to shift. i may not know you but you sure as hell dont know me, cuz if you did you'd know i can shift damn near any stick as fast or faster than a stock auto. You got a stock shifter in your car?

[02"laser" Red]

Originally posted by 540Malibu
anyone who power-shifts doesnt know how to shift. i may not know you but you sure as hell dont know me, cuz if you did you'd know i can shift damn near any stick as fast or faster than a stock auto.

LMAO! Stick to your auto kid. I don't know you, you probably can shift as fast as an auto, so can I with out fail, for over ten years. All I saying is that having a shifter with stops is security, your dogging people saying that they must not be able to drive because they recommend one. Look back at your post, it's not just an opinion it's cocky and arrogant. I am sure your a pretty good driver, but don't act like your the end all on knowledge especially since you don't even own what your knocking. :thumbsup:

[540Malibu]

Originally posted by fiveho
You got a stock shifter in your car?

my s10 (4 speed) has a factory shifter.

[WETDRM]

an aftermarket shifter is invaluable to any mustang....and a pro 5.0 is the best of the bunch....ive tried many others and that is the one i like the most.and to toot my own horn...i can shift quick enough not to lose a step at all to a car that doesnt.......damm S2000's

[fiveho]

Originally posted by 540Malibu
my s10 (4 speed) has a factory shifter. :sleep: :sleep: :sleep:

[540Malibu]

Originally posted by 02"laser" Red
LMAO! Stick to your auto kid. I don't know you, you probably can shift as fast as an auto, so can I with out fail, for over ten years. All I saying is that having a shifter with stops is security, your dogging people saying that they must not be able to drive because they recommend one. Look back at your post, it's not just an opinion it's cocky and arrogant. I am sure your a pretty good driver, but don't act like your the end all on knowledge especially since you don't even own what your knocking. :thumbsup:

i can be as cocky and arrogant as i want, i stated my opinion and it was shot down, my opinion was that a stock shifter is just fine once you learn how to use it. second, when there was an abundance of utterly false information posted, in my attempt to correct it, i recieved "blah blah blah mustang blah blah blah i can shift better tahn you"
i never said that aftermarket shifters are not better quality.

"but the Pro 5.0 definatly is of much greater quality than stock...
less leverage, than the stocker, due to the shorter handle..
for a good driver, pull for pull, the difference in shifting speed you'll see between the two is neglagable.."

>>>>>>"Originally posted by 02"laser" Red
I also have a pro 5.0 shifter, and they are 10 times better period, no argument, and I have been driving fast cars for over ten years and it's always better to have than not. As far as needing it because I can't shift, anytime anyone her want to test who can shift faster and more accurate, softer anything you want, line up. The tremec trannies are known for weak forks, The very first thing you do Badass99RT is get one. then get a blowzilla"

seems like you called me out first, and a shifter doesn't make the forks any stronger, it jsut has stops, which are much like a seat belt, only needed if you push it too far, belts only needed if you have a problem staying put in the seat. just a fail-safe

[02"laser" Red]

Originally posted by GT200MPH
an aftermarket shifter is invaluable to any mustang....and a pro 5.0 is the best of the bunch....ive tried many others and that is the one i like the most.and to toot my own horn...i can shift quick enough not to lose a step at all to a car that doesnt.......damm S2000's

I hear ya, I have driven home with blown clutches, matching rpms to shift. the only thing that sucks is the stop signs LMAO!

[fiveho]

Originally posted by 540Malibu
i can be as cocky and arrogant as i want, i stated my opinion and it was shot down, my opinion was that a stock shifter is just fine once you learn how to use it. second, when there was an abundance of utterly false information posted, in my attempt to correct it, i recieved "blah blah blah mustang blah blah blah i can shift better tahn you"
i never said that aftermarket shifters are not better quality.

"but the Pro 5.0 definatly is of much greater quality than stock...
less leverage, than the stocker, due to the shorter handle..
for a good driver, pull for pull, the difference in shifting speed you'll see between the two is neglagable.."

>>>>>>"Originally posted by 02"laser" Red
I also have a pro 5.0 shifter, and they are 10 times better period, no argument, and I have been driving fast cars for over ten years and it's always better to have than not. As far as needing it because I can't shift, anytime anyone her want to test who can shift faster and more accurate, softer anything you want, line up. The tremec trannies are known for weak forks, The very first thing you do Badass99RT is get one. then get a blowzilla"

seems like you called me out first, and a shifter doesn't make the forks any stronger, it jsut has stops, which are much like a seat belt, only needed if you push it too far, belts only needed if you have a problem staying put in the seat. just a fail-safe :sleep: :sleep: :sleep:

[02"laser" Red]

Originally posted by 540Malibu
aftermarket shfiters are wastes of money, if YOU cant learn how to shift, dont blame the shifter.

Looks to me like you started calling people out first, seeing that this post is a page before mine, and I wasn't calling anyone out, I was simply reassuring you that I can drive as good as anyone here and willing to back that statment up. And, everything I have said about shifters is 100% fact, you think not? go to a mustang formum and ask, don't take my word or any other mustang owner on this site's word, seeing that they are all saying the same exact thing I am.

[540Malibu]

Originally posted by 02"laser" Red
Looks to me like you started calling people out first, seeing that this post is a page before mine, and I wasn't calling anyone out, I was simply reassuring you that I can drive as good as anyone here and willing to back that statment up. And, everything I have said about shifters is 100% fact, you think not? go to a mustang formum and ask, don't take my word or any other mustang owner on this site's word, seeing that they are all saying the same exact thing I am.

mustang owners think anything they spend money on is sooooo much better than the stock stuff. just like the 1.7 rockers that kill the springs and lifters and cam lobes.

[timGT]

im the only one with a triax huh? well to chime in, next to gears, the shifter was the best mod ive done to my car and just about every other mustang owner will agree.. triax or pro 5.0 jake!

[02"laser" Red]

Originally posted by timGT
im the only one with a triax huh? well to chime in, next to gears, the shifter was the best mod ive done to my car and just about every other mustang owner will agree.. triax or pro 5.0 jake!

Thats one more:smokin:

[540Malibu]

Originally posted by timGT
im the only one with a triax huh? well to chime in, next to gears, the shifter was the best mod ive done to my car and just about every other mustang owner will agree.. triax or pro 5.0 jake!

this coming from the guy that had to ask if the eaton would bolt up to his 2 valve (no offense to you tim, im just trying to validate my mustang stereo type).

[02"laser" Red]

Originally posted by 540Malibu
this coming from the guy that had to ask if the eaton would bolt up to his 2 valve (no offense to you tim, im just trying to validate my mustang stereo type).


No it doesn't, now if every Mustang owner with an aftermarket shifter asked this then yes you would have a point, but sorry dude you don't

[timGT]

Originally posted by 540Malibu
this coming from the guy that had to ask if the eaton would bolt up to his 2 valve (no offense to you tim, im just trying to validate my mustang stereo type).

so just cause i asked that question means i cant voice the opinion of the triax being a great mod? wtf are you talking about..

[540Malibu]

Originally posted by 02"laser" Red
No it doesn't, now if every Mustang owner with an aftermarket shifter asked this then yes you would have a point, but sorry dude you don't

yeah, go to the mustang and ford truck sites and read some info, i've read tons of posts about "will a lightning supercharger bolt on to my f-150" "will a cobra supercharger bolt on to my gt". dont even try arguing with my next point because you will look just as stupid as the 80's turbines. Mustang owners are followers, they see what one person with a mustang does, and then copy it because its what the other people are doing, its the same way with the new camaro's the majority of the owner population does every bolt on known to man and still call their car stock. Its what the advertisers do to reel you in and make money.

[540Malibu]

Originally posted by timGT
so just cause i asked that question means i cant voice the opinion of the triax being a great mod? wtf are you talking about..

you can voice your opinion, but i have yet to see why you think its a great mod, with fact to fact comparisons between the stock, and the triax. that is probably because you dont know direct fact to fact differences. and is why you had to ask about the eaton.

[02"laser" Red]

Originally posted by 540Malibu
yeah, go to the mustang and ford truck sites and read some info, i've read tons of posts about "will a lightning supercharger bolt on to my f-150" "will a cobra supercharger bolt on to my gt". dont even try arguing with my next point because you will look just as stupid as the 80's turbines. Mustang owners are followers, they see what one person with a mustang does, and then copy it because its what the other people are doing, its the same way with the new camaro's the majority of the owner population does every bolt on known to man and still call their car stock. Its what the advertisers do to reel you in and make money.

you can go to any site and find newbies, thats why there called newbies, you mean to tell me you started out life knowing everything about cars? Please, you get more and more arrogant
as you try to justify your ignorance. You have serious social issues due to the fact your so young, you will grow out of it, but it will take time.:thumbsup:

[540Malibu]

Originally posted by 02"laser" Red
you can go to any site and find newbies, thats why there called newbies, you mean to tell me you started out life knowing everything about cars? Please, you get more and more arrogant
as you try to justify your ignorance. You have serious social issues due to the fact your so young, you will grow out of it, but it will take time.:thumbsup:

i learn by experience, observation, and logic. not by asking others stupid questions. I am not satisfied by yes or no, i want a WHY when i ask a question, if someone cannot answer why, then they are stupid, plain and simple.

99 cobra supplied the why to validate his point, allyou can do is resort to childish insults.

[fiveho]

Originally posted by 540Malibu
yeah, go to the mustang and ford truck sites and read some info, i've read tons of posts about "will a lightning supercharger bolt on to my f-150" "will a cobra supercharger bolt on to my gt". dont even try arguing with my next point because you will look just as stupid as the 80's turbines. Mustang owners are followers, they see what one person with a mustang does, and then copy it because its what the other people are doing, its the same way with the new camaro's the majority of the owner population does every bolt on known to man and still call their car stock. Its what the advertisers do to reel you in and make money. Like your the first guy in the world to soup up a Malibu.That's funny.

[02"laser" Red]

Originally posted by 540Malibu
i learn by experience, observation, and logic. not by asking others stupid questions. I am not satisfied by yes or no, i want a WHY when i ask a question, if someone cannot answer why, then they are stupid, plain and simple.

99 cobra supplied the why to validate his point, allyou can do is resort to childish insults.

I am not insulting you, I think you are very knowledgeable, I just think you have some issues, you are stereotyping people by what brand of car they drive, excuse me, but that is moronic and very childish. As far as validating the shifter thing , how many time do I have to say that the shifter forks are weak huh? did we all say basicly the same thing? You haven't read any of my posts, you just see a Mustang owner.

[02"laser" Red]

Originally posted by 02"laser" Red
I am not insulting you, I think you are very knowledgeable, I just think you have some issues, you are stereotyping people by what brand of car they drive, excuse me, but that is moronic and very childish. As far as validating the shifter thing , how many time do I have to say that the shifter forks are weak huh? did we all say basicly the same thing? You haven't read any of my posts, you just see a Mustang owner.

Oh yeah, one other thing, I have also owned my fair share of Chevy's, like my first car, a 72 Chevelle SS. So what does your stereotype say about people who have owned all different cars?

[540Malibu]

Originally posted by 02"laser" Red
I am not insulting you, I think you are very knowledgeable, I just think you have some issues, you are stereotyping people by what brand of car they drive, excuse me, but that is moronic and very childish. As far as validating the shifter thing , how many time do I have to say that the shifter forks are weak huh? did we all say basicly the same thing? You haven't read any of my posts, you just see a Mustang owner.

weak shifter forks are a reson to upgrade shifter forks, not to upgrade a shifter, the shifter forks are not going act any different with an aftermarket shifter, than the would with a properly shifted factory shifter, if you have a problem bending shift forks with a factory shifter, then you do not know how to properly shift the transmission.

[02"laser" Red]

Originally posted by 540Malibu
weak shifter forks are a reson to upgrade shifter forks, not to upgrade a shifter, the shifter forks are not going act any different with an aftermarket shifter, than the would with a properly shifted factory shifter, if you have a problem bending shift forks with a factory shifter, then you do not know how to properly shift the transmission.

Well lets look at your logic, rip a tranny apart or switch out a shifter hmmm that a tough one. Your right the forks don't act any different, they are just protected by the stops. As far as not being able to shift, again it has nothing to do with it, if your racing alot your bound to put pressure on the forks, and the little plastic bushing on the end of the stock shifter, thats the problem, stop chalking it up to inexperiance, becase it's clearly not the case, it's been said enough, I am not going to beat this dead dog any longer. Have nice night

[igotasweetride]

spence, tim didnt ask if the blower would fit because hes a fuckin follower, he asked because he was too lay to look around and find out. its a lot easier to just ask someone who already knows. and his shifter is a lot better for a couple reasons, 1. shorting shift 2. less deflection due to no plastic shit means a tighter feeling when you shift hard so it feels like a tighter pattern 3. the bushings usually are replaced from the stock shit to poly of metal which also tightens the shifter which makes the pattern feel better and lastly 4. when everything it taken apart, replaced and all the little things are replaced with new shit and tightened to better specs, everything is a lot tighter and smoother. this makes people think the actual pattern is better when in actuality, its everthing up top being tighter so people just think its everything all over including the pattern itself. next time you wanna try and make someone look stupid, at least make it something good like someone asking if a 502 crank will fit into a 305.

[540Malibu]

Originally posted by igotasweetride
spence, tim didnt ask if the blower would fit because hes a fuckin follower, he asked because he was too lay to look around and find out. its a lot easier to just ask someone who already knows. and his shifter is a lot better for a couple reasons, 1. shorting shift 2. less deflection due to no plastic shit means a tighter feeling when you shift hard so it feels like a tighter pattern 3. the bushings usually are replaced from the stock shit to poly of metal which also tightens the shifter which makes the pattern feel better and lastly 4. when everything it taken apart, replaced and all the little things are replaced with new shit and tightened to better specs, everything is a lot tighter and smoother. this makes people think the actual pattern is better when in actuality, its everthing up top being tighter so people just think its everything all over including the pattern itself. next time you wanna try and make someone look stupid, at least make it something good like someone asking if a 502 crank will fit into a 305.

you can make as many inferences as wou want, but i DID NOT say HE was a follower, i was using a question he asked to generalize the mustang populace, and the reason for the "no offense" comment. The question he asked is equivelant to a GM guy asking if a complete 7.5" s10 rear end will bolt into a 3rd gen camaro, if you took a second to look, you'd notice it wouldn't.

as far as a 502 crank fitting into a 305 it will with minor block clearances for connecting rods. (this is because there are 502" small blocks and its the exact same crank dimensions as a 305 with the exception of stroke.)

[igotasweetride]

Originally posted by 540Malibu
you can make as many inferences as wou want, but i DID NOT say HE was a follower, i was using a question he asked to generalize the mustang populace, and the reason for the "no offense" comment. The question he asked is equivelant to a GM guy asking if a complete 7.5" s10 rear end will bolt into a 3rd gen camaro, if you took a second to look, you'd notice it wouldn't.

as far as a 502 crank fitting into a 305 it will with minor block clearances for connecting rods. (this is because there are 502" small blocks and its the exact same crank dimensions as a 305 with the exception of stroke.)


by generalizing all mustang owners, you put him in that category, so you directly insulted him. if you said MOST mustang owners, then i wouldnt bitch, but you refered to all fo them. also, WTF is a 502 small block?????? how is that possible?

[540Malibu]

Originally posted by igotasweetride
by generalizing all mustang owners, you put him in that category, so you directly insulted him. if you said MOST mustang owners, then i wouldnt bitch, but you refered to all fo them. also, WTF is a 502 small block?????? how is that possible?

when you generalize, or say in general that means there are exceptions, otherwise i would have said ALL because it is much easier to type.

[fiveho]

Hi "SPENCE".Or should I call you "SPENCY"?

[H3llphyre]

Originally posted by igotasweetride
WTF is a 502 small block?????? how is that possible?

Seen it done. Can't say how long the motor would live, but I know its been done more then once.

[germantoy]

dude no offense but to call someone a follower when everymod on your car has been done by someone else (including color schemes) is fucken gay

[540Malibu]

Originally posted by germantoy
dude no offense but to call someone a follower when everymod on your car has been done by someone else (including color schemes) is fucken gay

when this happens you can say that, but im still confused as who your saying this to?