Stock 124,000 mile LS1 with a T76 turbo

[96Z28SS]

Ummm yep its true.
Stock LS1 with 124,000 miles with a turbo.
775rwhp / 865rwtq

Just go to
http://www.quartermileperformance.com/project-formulation.asp

I really don't think this could have been done with a blower.

Rob

[TunedPort 335]

By the end of the night, we had accumulated a total of 141 pulls since installing the turbo system back in November. Over 40 of those pulls were at 700+rwhp, with 20+ being at 750+rwhp! Not to mention all of the "street" runs.

That is absolutely insane! :worship2:

[bottledbird68]

Originally posted by 96Z28SS
I really don't think this could have been done with a blower.

Rob Oh boy, here we go again :D
Mmm, nice car though :thumbsup:

[Devin Mac]

dear god... and i thought my buddy chris making 268whp on 8psi and stock neon internals was impressive.... i hope they at least get a few runs out of it before it's melts down. :thumbsup:

[TunedPort 335]

Originally posted by Devin Mac
dear god... and i thought my buddy chris making 268whp on 8psi and stock neon internals was impressive.... i hope they at least get a few runs out of it before it's melts down. :thumbsup:

See Devin...pushrods aren't so bad after all

:hug:

[Slowhawk]

I don't trust anything Rob Rymer say's..

[Superskwrl]

Those motors are awesome with boost, too bad they only have 4 bolts per cylinder,5 would be nice, but odviously 4 get the job done

I wonder if the GM brass with open there eyes to boost being your friend:eh:

[H3llphyre]

Originally posted by Superskwrl
I wonder if the GM brass with open there eyes to boost being your friend:eh:


Well, they already have one boosted engine, which is the supercharged 3.8L V6. There is an optional (GM installed) supercharger for ecotecs, and the new solstice and cars being built off the same platform are either going to be supercharged or turbocharged. GM isn't blind to boost, they have had quite a few motors that were boosted. 3.8L V6 (turbo), 3.1L V6 (turbo), turbo 2.4L (quad4 i think)... Not to mention the old turbo trans ams. I would almost venture to say they have had more boosted vehicles then the other two domestics, although ford is close, and chryslers mitsu engines don't count.

[Superskwrl]

GM has a tendency to boost enemic motors, where ford makes and effort to make the motor decent then puts boost to it, with the exception of the quad4 the others imo anr junk

I have been lookin aorund online for more info on that car, and if it is for real and stays together i will buy an LS1 car and do the very same thing

[TunedPort 335]

I don't care what anyone says, that car is a ticking fuckin time bomb. I hope they get a few runs down the track before it pukes its guts out.

I have been lookin aorund online for more info on that car, and if it is for real and stays together i will buy an LS1 car and do the very same thing

[Devin Mac]

Originally posted by TunedPort 335
I don't care what anyone says, that car is a ticking fuckin time bomb. I hope they get a few runs down the track before it pukes its guts out.

umm, that's their point. they're TRYING to blow it up... then they put in the motor taht was built to be boosted and really have fun...

did i miss something? :-P

[Devin Mac]

P.S. fuck pushrods.

:thumbsup:

[TunedPort 335]

Originally posted by Devin Mac
umm, that's their point. they're TRYING to blow it up... then they put in the motor taht was built to be boosted and really have fun...

did i miss something? :-P

My post was in reply to Superskwrl, saying if it stays together that he was going to do the same thing. I'd rather see him build up the motor to withstand it.

I know whats what their intention is :thumbsup:

[Feral]

Not bad at all ... but considering what I've read before about the limits of the LS1 I think they are getting lucky myself. In any case as long as they are having fun go for it!! :thumbsup:

[NickPSI]

Originally posted by H3llphyre
Well, they already have one boosted engine, which is the supercharged 3.8L V6. There is an optional (GM installed) supercharger for ecotecs, and the new solstice and cars being built off the same platform are either going to be supercharged or turbocharged. GM isn't blind to boost, they have had quite a few motors that were boosted. 3.8L V6 (turbo), 3.1L V6 (turbo), turbo 2.4L (quad4 i think)... Not to mention the old turbo trans ams. I would almost venture to say they have had more boosted vehicles then the other two domestics, although ford is close, and chryslers mitsu engines don't count.


And the 4.3.

[Slowhawk]

Originally posted by Superskwrl
GM has a tendency to boost enemic motors, where ford makes and effort to make the motor decent then puts boost to it, with the exception of the quad4 the others imo anr junk

I have been lookin aorund online for more info on that car, and if it is for real and stays together i will buy an LS1 car and do the very same thing

You guy's seem to forget the Grand National:eh: And I owned a Supercoupe-what a piece of shit.Blew up every 2k miles.

Ford finally got it right with the Lightening and finally the Cobra,too bad they fucked up the Cobra by all the extra weight.

I really don't believe for a minute that the car put out that much power on a stock motor.I remember Raymer saying he had a stock motor in his car when months before he blew it up.

[96Z28SS]

Slowhawk,

wasn't that his other car, i don't remember the formula ever blowing up?

rob

[540Malibu]

Originally posted by 96Z28SS
Ummm yep its true.
Stock LS1 with 124,000 miles with a turbo.
775rwhp / 865rwtq

Just go to
http://www.quartermileperformance.com/project-formulation.asp

I really don't think this could have been done with a blower.

Rob

he just lost all credibility to me with this....
"Anyway, the added HP came mostly from the addition of a new SPEC Stage 5 clutch."

[540Malibu]

its also hard to believe that 57pph injectors would support a 1000hp motor.

[Slowhawk]

Originally posted by 96Z28SS
Slowhawk,

wasn't that his other car, i don't remember the formula ever blowing up?

rob

Just pointing towards his credability..He told me it took him 80 dyno pulls to tune in 500hp.His tuner must suck or he's full of crap.
As you see I'm not a fan of his after a spiff we had alittle while ago.:bash:

[igotasweetride]

it was only 578/631 on the stock motor. those numbers are on the built up motor.

[TunedPort 335]

Originally posted by igotasweetride
it was only 578/631 on the stock motor. those numbers are on the built up motor.

No.


I know it seems crazy, but this is STILL the same factory stock engine!

[bren]

Originally posted by TunedPort 335
No.

the man is always right, i mean cmon he has a 3-0-5.

how can you FUCK with that bryan seriously?

[96Z28SS]

Slowhawk,
I remember that little spat you had with him, did that ever get resolved? Did the guy get his car running right?

Also i want your opinion on this,
lets say I hurt a head gasket, would the motor need a rebuild?
I think you know what I mean by this.

Rob

[TunedPort 335]

Originally posted by bren y0
the man is always right, i mean cmon he has a 3-0-5.

how can you FUCK with that bryan seriously?

Stop being a fucking loser. Read what the site says. It "says" that it still had a COMPLETELY STOCK 120k mile engine when they made that dyno run. Now I guess we have to take their word for it...

They even said themselves they are extremely surprised its still holding. Whats so hard about fucking reading...goddamn sometimes you people piss me off (no maybe just you bren).

Oh and I don't have a 305. Thats like saying someone with a 383 has a 350. :eh:

[Slowhawk]

Rob,
Yes it got resolved.He blamed me,I told him to screw himself and that's that.The car's clutch is completely toast.The Turbo kit had problems like week wastegate springs,intercooler with serious air leaks(not welded right).So now we are waiting on the clutch.He has been driving it almost daily.So my tuning can't be bad:)

Also i want your opinion on this,
lets say I hurt a head gasket, would the motor need a rebuild?
I think you know what I mean by this.

Yes,I understand.If you just hurt a headgasket,why are the pistons all new
:lol: I gave up on that:smokin:

[bren]

Originally posted by TunedPort 335
Stop being a fucking loser. Read what the site says. It "says" that it still had a COMPLETELY STOCK 120k mile engine when they made that dyno run. Now I guess we have to take their word for it...

They even said themselves they are extremely surprised its still holding. Whats so hard about fucking reading...goddamn sometimes you people piss me off (no maybe just you bren).

Oh and I don't have a 305. Thats like saying someone with a 383 has a 350. :eh:

wow, waaaaaaaa did germantoy shit in your cheerios?

i dont care what sort of ricer bovs or bore you put to your engine, its still essentially a 305.

since an srt4, is a suped up neon, does that not make it a neon. pure denial.

you might as well say its a 305, because if you tell real 350 builders you have a 335.34304930 engine they are going to t bag you for trying.

[Feral]

Originally posted by 540Malibu
its also hard to believe that 57pph injectors would support a 1000hp motor.

Are you serious??? 57pph injectors x 8 ... would require a line pressure of about 70psi to make that kind of HP ... not to mention their fuel pump would have to be running about 30 volts. Something tells me that at the very least the fuel system is nowhere near stock.

[TunedPort 335]

Originally posted by bren y0
you might as well say its a 305, because if you tell real 350 builders you have a 335.34304930 engine they are going to t bag you for trying.

Everyone I've talked to has liked my motor. Try again

[96Z28SS]

look at his website, everything on the car and around the car is not stock.
The only thing to the engine is a LS6 intake and a set of springs.
other than that the rest of the engine is stock.

[H3llphyre]

Originally posted by 96Z28SS
look at his website, everything on the car and around the car is not stock.
The only thing to the engine is a LS6 intake and a set of springs.
other than that the rest of the engine is stock.

The only part of that writeup that bugs the shit out of me is that he keeps saying "And with OUR turbo kit installed...". Its pure advertising, more then showing some accomplishment. When people are only advertising a product, i believe about 25% of what they say.

[PurEvl]

Originally posted by 96Z28SS
Slowhawk,
I remember that little spat you had with him, did that ever get resolved? Did the guy get his car running right?

Also i want your opinion on this,
lets say I hurt a head gasket, would the motor need a rebuild?
I think you know what I mean by this.

Rob

:lol: Ya now all of a sudden he put in stock displacement pistons from diamond and a mild hone. The cranks still stock though, what an asshat! (in response to question to slowhawk)

[96Z28SS]

Well a guy I work with (day job that actually pays the bills) has a Procharger 7lbs on his Z06 and with 42lb Ford injectors he put down 565rwhp.

[Superskwrl]

Originally posted by Feral
Are you serious??? 57pph injectors x 8 ... would require a line pressure of about 70psi to make that kind of HP ... not to mention their fuel pump would have to be running about 30 volts. Something tells me that at the very least the fuel system is nowhere near stock.

It says it has twin 255's, so if 1 255 is good for 500hp,is 2 good for 1000?

55's are good for 800hp, and if they ran 50psi base +15lbs=65psi fp

Honestly i have done all the math and it all works out and then you add the alchohol into the equation and....?

I dont want to believe it either:bash:

[540Malibu]

Originally posted by Superskwrl
It says it has twin 255's, so if 1 255 is good for 500hp,is 2 good for 1000?

55's are good for 800hp, and if they ran 50psi base +15lbs=65psi fp

Honestly i have done all the math and it all works out and then you add the alchohol into the equation and....?

I dont want to believe it either:bash:

they are running that much alcohol?

[Superskwrl]

Originally posted by 540Malibu
they are running that much alcohol?

I dont know how much alchohol they're running, what i meant was that the fuel math works out, and if you then add alchohol you can get away with that much more.
I am in no way saying the car isn't a ticking time bomb.

I've always been under the impression the pistons are weak and the heads dont seal real good like the old 5 bolt setup did

[Superskwrl]

Originally posted by Slowhawk
You guy's seem to forget the Grand National:eh: And I owned a Supercoupe-what a piece of shit.Blew up every 2k miles.


I consider the GN motor enimic, those heads are awful and i believe the motor has awful harmonics, according to some leading to turbo failure. non forged pistons, the list goes on

I would love to own a GN, but imagine if the GN had a head that flowed like an LS1 or navigator head

[H3llphyre]

Originally posted by Superskwrl
I consider the GN motor enimic, those heads are awful and i believe the motor has awful harmonics, according to some leading to turbo failure. non forged pistons, the list goes on

I would love to own a GN, but imagine if the GN had a head that flowed like an LS1 or navigator head

But, it was built in the 80's. Show me how many stock cars came with awesome flowing heads in the 80's. For the time, the GN was a masterpiece. Compared to current tech, it is a tad archaic, but still beats out a lot that is available.

[540Malibu]

Originally posted by H3llphyre
But, it was built in the 80's. Show me how many stock cars came with awesome flowing heads in the 80's. For the time, the GN was a masterpiece. Compared to current tech, it is a tad archaic, but still beats out a lot that is available.

GM 049 truck heads.

[PurEvl]

he has track times now too, he couldnt launch it on the stock rear but he was MPH'ing 136 and low 11's Once he gets the new forged motor and 12 bolt it should get crazy.