Solid axle options

[03COBRABOY]

here is what i have to decide.

just use the GT brakes or switch to the cobra's?
the gt brakes will allow me to use 15" rims with no hassels plus i dont have to by the cobra brackets to swap em out.

any NECESSARY upgrades?
a few have told me to weld the tubes (whats involved there?)
some said upgrade it all first and some said itll hold for a while. when something breaks THEN upgrade.

[igotasweetride]

Originally posted by Badass99RT
here is what i have to decide.

just use the GT brakes or switch to the cobra's?
the gt brakes will allow me to use 15" rims with no hassels plus i dont have to by the cobra brackets to swap em out.

any NECESSARY upgrades?
a few have told me to weld the tubes (whats involved there?)
some said upgrade it all first and some said itll hold for a while. when something breaks THEN upgrade.

i already gave you the simple answer, get a 15" rim from one of hte worcester guys, you know they have one around lol, if it fits, run the cobras, if it doesnt, keep the GT brakes.


run the stock rear till it breaks, thats always the fun way lol. as for welding, the tubes going into the pumkin are probably what they're talkin about. im not sure if they're pressed or what from the factory. just do that and maybe a girdle :eh:

[WETDRM]

:bash: :bash: :bash: :bash: :bash: :bash: AAAAAAHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH.......ok .....15s will fit........and i suggest a T/A girdle,and if your going to change the gears get an aftermarket posi with 31 spline axles.

[igotasweetride]

Originally posted by GT200MPH
:bash: :bash: :bash: :bash: :bash: :bash: AAAAAAHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH.......ok .....15s will fit........and i suggest a T/A girdle,and if your going to change the gears get an aftermarket posi with 31 spline axles.

yea yea yea, a few people have said they tried and it didnt work, so we gotta check it on our own. im trying to get him to leave the rear with the stock guts and spend the money on the tubular front end, full headers and exhaust (might as well do it while the k member is off). and while hes doing that, might as well get a rear drag suspension to match :thumbsup: i love spending jakes money :lol:

[WETDRM]

well those few people are morons

[igotasweetride]

Originally posted by GT200MPH
well those few people are morons


no shit, they own mustangs :lol:








on a side note, the guy jake got the rear end from, said hes got a friend selling a fully build 93 cobra, 331, new trannys, askin $10,500, sell the two cars and get the bitch :worship2:

[Superskwrl]

if it were me i'd put aftermarket control arms in it, you can get them cheap if you shop around.

IMO the way to do the killer rear is:
Heavy duty tubular/box control arms 2-300
Have 9" ends put on the stock housing 2-300
Have the tubes welded to the center 100 or less
Have moser/strange etc 31spline axles for 9" ends 400
Have Ford truck 31 spline trac loc 300
Have a rear cover with bolts for pre load 160
If 90+% drag racing get a spool instead 300 or less

Run the GT brakes as i do not believe 15's fit, call "wells performance" in Fla. to find out for sure they are experts on the newer stang wheel/tires setups

The ends/welding would proably be like 300 total, i think the ends are 75$ in summit, Jon @ tube chassis has done that setup before, i think he get like 2-300 for changin the ends welding the tubes to the housing, everything is TIG welded and VERY nice, when do that you can make the rearend narrower etc so be sure to tell him how u want it, the price i have listed are OUT of the car, i'm sure he'd want more if u had it in the car

[540Malibu]

jake, use the cobra brakes, you can borrow one of my draglites to see that they clear.

[WETDRM]

what the fuck is wrong with you fucking people....15S WILL FIT OVER REAR COBRA DISC BRAKES....I HAVE DONE IT MYSELF ON MY OWN FUCKING CAR.......SO SUCK A DICK!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[Superskwrl]

aren't the rear rotors 11.65? i think we tried to put 15's on the kermit car and they wouldn't fit. i think even the GT's need a spacer

[WETDRM]

Originally posted by Superskwrl
aren't the rear rotors 11.65? i think we tried to put 15's on the kermit car and they wouldn't fit. i think even the GT's need a spacer

you think or you did.....because i know I DID put 15s off of a cruiser on the back of mine with 11.65 rotors.

[Superskwrl]

I'm not 1 to stcik my foot in my mouth so, i THINK, ie pretty sure, i'd bet you a dollar?

[WETDRM]

Originally posted by Superskwrl
I'm not 1 to stcik my foot in my mouth so, i THINK, ie pretty sure, i'd bet you a dollar?

well i'd put the title to both of my cars up cause i know im right.

[H3llphyre]

Jake, do yourself a favor and build the rearend before you put it in the car. Do you really want to go to the track on the first run and explode the rearend, only having to trailer the car back home and have it out of commision while you build the rearend, like you should have in the first place. You are doing everything right with this car so far, so why stop being that way now.

As Don said, he has done this on his car, which has the cobra brakes.... Shit, if the 15's don't fit, you can always "shave" down the calipers... Thats always fun and I have seen it done before... I suppose it also matters WHICH 15" rim you are using. It does make a difference.

[Superskwrl]

Originally posted by GT200MPH
well i'd put the title to both of my cars up cause i know im right.

My dollar against you 2 title's, DEAL:ak1:

[H3llphyre]

Originally posted by Superskwrl
My dollar against you 2 title's, DEAL:ak1:

He's got witnesses to him doing it... you lose.

[Superskwrl]

with the proper offset weld or = wheel, i bet a 15" wheel with negative BS would it on the front but thats not reality:no:

[bottledbird68]

I stood there and watched him put a 15" rim off of a Crown Vic onto the rear of his car which has 11.65" Cobra rear brakes. Even watched as he tightened the lugnuts down, then spun it to make sure it cleared everything. Jake, stop talking about it and test fit Don's god damn rim I have here at my house. That will answer it once and for all. Do I need to take a ride this weekend?

[bottledbird68]

Oh yeah, and as for the rear end, why drive a grenade around? Unless of course you like the excitement.... And as for waiting until it breaks, just ask our buddy Ron about how when the diff exploded in his truck he had to go buy a housing from GM for an assload of money because the force bent the tubes and he couldn't find one in the yards again.........

[03COBRABOY]

damn boys...calm down..:lol:

i odnt know//only thing im going by are the 25 03 cobra owners that told me they wont fit..thats all.

id like to build the rear up...but that means it wont go in too soon. figure another $1200 or so to get it good and thatll take away form racing...i need slicks too. i wont have any power adders so i dont see why it cant hold up to 370rwhp. a blown / modded stang makes that.

i think i need to rip the IRS out for some money......:thumbsup:

[H3llphyre]

Originally posted by Badass99RT
damn boys...calm down..:lol:

i odnt know//only thing im going by are the 25 03 cobra owners that told me they wont fit..thats all.

id like to build the rear up...but that means it wont go in too soon. figure another $1200 or so to get it good and thatll take away form racing...i need slicks too. i wont have any power adders so i dont see why it cant hold up to 370rwhp. a blown / modded stang makes that.

i think i need to rip the IRS out for some money......:thumbsup:


25 cobra owners who have done the swap themselves, or just pretend to know what they are talking about, like Brad? Unless they have tried it, I wouldn't believe them.

The fact is, if and when you break that stock rearend, it may cost you a LOT more to get it fixed. Why not leave the IRS in there and just build the rearend. You do have MONTHS to do it, before the cobra even comes out again.

Anyway, the second you put sticky tires on that thing, that rearend's life will start ticking down. Could be months, could be days... I wouldn't risk the $450 you spent on that rearend. Do the right thing, build the car right.

[Mr Joshua]

i'd agree with Jay, built it up. if you put the stocker in and it busts, you just end up having to swap the IRS back in... you might be able to sell the stock axles, gears, etc.. to recoupe some of the $... ebay...
~J

[H3llphyre]

Originally posted by Black99Cobra
i'd agree with Jay, built it up. if you put the stocker in and it busts, you just end up having to swap the IRS back in... you might be able to sell the stock axles, gears, etc.. to recoupe some of the $... ebay...
~J

Even the want advertiser may be a decent place to list those parts. Mustangs are plentiful and people are always looking for parts. It doesn't cost anything to put it in the Want Ad, until you sell the stuff.

[03COBRABOY]

ok...don, mystic and some thers..know what i can get for some of the stock parts off of it?

[Superskwrl]

Originally posted by Badass99RT
ok...don, mystic and some thers..know what i can get for some of the stock parts off of it?

imo very lil if anything, my friend has a shop and would throw it out if some1 had him do there car and they didn't want the stuff back

This is a VERY expensive thing you guys are doin,
imo buyin 30+k car that is good/decent all around and turning it into a drag type car that can do stuff a 10-15k car can do is not the most cost effective thing to do, i would be willing to bet ANOTHER dollar that if u take the car to the dealer fo anything and it has a solid rear they wil void the warantee, that will go on the carfax then you will be like the guy who owns the kermit car with 50k+ into it and no one will give you 35 into it in a car with like 10,000 miles on it and that car still has IRS and all the handling stuff

my .02

Good Luck

[Mike S]

Damn jake i give you credit for buying an 03 and ripping it apart like and a not caring about a warenty..thats nuts

[03COBRABOY]

its not an ALL OUT DRAG CAR. and ask

as for the warrenty..i told the salesman to shut up when he was trying to sell me the 72k one..told him it would be voided by 10k anyways. i mean, could YOU NOT touch this car for 36k miles or 3 yrs? itll deff hi the 3yrs first and thats too far away. why is it so different to do it to a new cobra then to say a 93 cobra? its all for the same purpose. its a hobby...:thumbsup:

[Superskwrl]

you can buy a mint 93 cobra, a beter imo foundation for a build up for like 18k, if u had 33k and bought the 93 you'd have 15 to put into it and imo could make as fast if not faster than the 03, although the 03 has aerodynamics on its side for top end fun

There's a awesome 94/5 cobra on ebay for 20k has like 11k miles and has good motor etc over 500hp to the tires

[Superskwrl]

http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=2456587917&category=6236&sspagename=STRK%3AMESSE%3AIT&rd=1#mainImage


Car is super clean, i know the people who worked on the car and everything is very nice, i;m sure could make more power if brought to the right shop for a ncie tune up

[03COBRABOY]

still the same..just using a newer car.

[Superskwrl]

Originally posted by Badass99RT
still the same..just using a newer car.

:no: its 15k less to start, and some1 has already lost there shirt on it, the 03's wont go up in value no matter what you do to it

Not tryin to be a dick, this site is kinda funny there are guys who cleary are from wealthy families etc, guys who are white collar workers, there are guys who are blue collar workers like

I cant bring myself to spend $$ only to litterally throw it away,by buyin a car once i get around the corner on average is worth 3k less

If I were gonna build a car up, i'd buy a MINT roller and buy things once, i know a guy who bought and 01 cobra the day he picked it up he drove it from the dealer to his shop lowered it put wheels on it and cat back, a few weeks later ripped the interior out of made everything custom for it,solid rear, put Gen7 DFI in it,blower u name it. Custom hood etc.
Now he says he should have bought a body in white for 2000$ because thats about all thats left of the original car

My advice is spend $$ 1 time, dont buy a blower pully when your gonna get a KB, dont buy shorty headers when your gonna go to lng tubes, dont buy hi flow cats then get off roads etc

[H3llphyre]

Originally posted by Superskwrl
:no: its 15k less to start, and some1 has already lost there shirt on it, the 03's wont go up in value no matter what you do to it

Not tryin to be a dick, this site is kinda funny there are guys who cleary are from wealthy families etc, guys who are white collar workers, there are guys who are blue collar workers like

I cant bring myself to spend $$ only to litterally throw it away,by buyin a car once i get around the corner on average is worth 3k less

If I were gonna build a car up, i'd buy a MINT roller and buy things once, i know a guy who bought and 01 cobra the day he picked it up he drove it from the dealer to his shop lowered it put wheels on it and cat back, a few weeks later ripped the interior out of made everything custom for it,solid rear, put Gen7 DFI in it,blower u name it. Custom hood etc.
Now he says he should have bought a body in white for 2000$ because thats about all thats left of the original car

My advice is spend $$ 1 time, dont buy a blower pully when your gonna get a KB, dont buy shorty headers when your gonna go to lng tubes, dont buy hi flow cats then get off roads etc


Obviously you haven't been into building cars for very long have you?

The point is, for high 20's, he got a car that cam with a motor built for boost, and a tranny able to handle the power. lets see...

Build a shortblock capable of high power... lets say 800hp. And, add to that the DOHC heads. Gonna cost you AT LEAST $4000, if not more. I am guessing upwards of $6000.

Buy a newer style mustang... gonna cost you AT LEAST $5000.

Buy a BRAND NEW T-56. Gonna cost you around $3000.

Buy a blower setup... again, another $3000.

Add in a computer that can handle the boost... Okay, lets go low and say $1500

Now, add all the stupid shit you will need to put this together. Okay, he spent a few grand extra by buying a car that already made the power and came with all these things. By the time he sells the IRS, he will probably only be spending a few hundred more on the rearend at completion.

You need to realize, time is money. Building a car from the ground up takes a LONG time. Not something you can throw together in a few weekends on spare time. He went out, bought a car that runs already.... the mods he will need to do he can do over a weekend. Voila... Insta fast car. I think it is a fine idea what he is doing. Probably pretty smart. Next time you see someone with a FAST nice looking car.... ask them how much they have invested into the car. You may be surprised at the amount.

[03COBRABOY]

buying things once doesnt always work either. if in a couple years i get to 10s in the car...ALOT has to be changed to be legal. thats the fun of the hobby.

[FATBLOCKMARO]

Originally posted by Badass99RT
buying things once doesnt always work either. if in a couple years i get to 10s in the car...ALOT has to be changed to be legal. thats the fun of the hobby.

WELL DON AND JAKE YOU ARE BOTH RIGHT..... THE WHEELS DON HAS ARE POLICE PACKAGE I ASSUME ??? A 15" WHEEL WILL NOT FIT....UNLESS IT IS A POLICE PACKAGE WHEEL ..REASON BEING POLICE PACKAGE WHEELS HAVE NORMAL OFFSET AND THE NON POLICE PACKAGE HAVE A 12MM OFFSET ....SO ON THE OTHER HAND YOU ARE BOTH RIGHT ....
DOES THAT MEAN I GET DONS TWO TITLES????

[WETDRM]

Originally posted by FATBLOCKMARO
WELL DON AND JAKE YOU ARE BOTH RIGHT..... THE WHEELS DON HAS ARE POLICE PACKAGE I ASSUME ??? A 15" WHEEL WILL NOT FIT....UNLESS IT IS A POLICE PACKAGE WHEEL ..REASON BEING POLICE PACKAGE WHEELS HAVE NORMAL OFFSET AND THE NON POLICE PACKAGE HAVE A 12MM OFFSET ....SO ON THE OTHER HAND YOU ARE BOTH RIGHT ....
DOES THAT MEAN I GET DONS TWO TITLES????


tyep they came right off a cruiser that was down at massasoit.....that would make sense i guess,with so many people saying they dont fit....well theres your answer jake....get 15" steel wheels off of a cruiser.

[WETDRM]

and no you dont get the titles....but i'll sell you a SHO.....1 owner never beet.......LOL

[FATBLOCKMARO]

Originally posted by GT200MPH
and no you dont get the titles....but i'll sell you a SHO.....1 owner never beet.......LOL

YEAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA:hmm:

[WETDRM]

did you actuly look that up or did you try it or was it just a guess?

[FATBLOCKMARO]

Originally posted by GT200MPH
did you actuly look that up or did you try it or was it just a guess?

I KNOW ALOT MORE FORD SHIT THAN I LIKE TO ADMIT:blush:

IVE RAN THROUGH THAT ABOUT A YEAR AGO W/ A CUSTOMER THAT ROAD RACED AND I PLAYED AROUND A LITTLE BIT AND FOUND THAT OUT:thumbsup:

[03COBRABOY]

ok..if THATS the case..i want nica nica welds or bogarts..would u use the gt brakes? i doubt ill see a difference in stopping power. :eh:

[FATBLOCKMARO]

Originally posted by Badass99RT
ok..if THATS the case..i want nica nica welds or bogarts..would u use the gt brakes? i doubt ill see a difference in stopping power. :eh:

STEEL WHEELS IN STOCK POLICE PACKAGE $15 EACH FOR YOU BUDDY:thumbsup:

[WETDRM]

Originally posted by Badass99RT
ok..if THATS the case..i want nica nica welds or bogarts..would u use the gt brakes? i doubt ill see a difference in stopping power. :eh:
if it could be done with out to much hassle ide use the gt brakes so theres no issues

[H3llphyre]

Originally posted by Badass99RT
ok..if THATS the case..i want nica nica welds or bogarts..would u use the gt brakes? i doubt ill see a difference in stopping power. :eh:
Hope you plan on getting a brake balancer... cuz its gonna throw off the braking characteristics of the car a LOT.

[WETDRM]

Originally posted by H3llphyre
Hope you plan on getting a brake balancer... cuz its gonna throw off the braking characteristics of the car a LOT.
it depnds on the size of the GT brakes VS the cobra brakes....they cant be that much smaller so it realy shouldnt matter

[FATBLOCKMARO]

Originally posted by GT200MPH
it depnds on the size of the GT brakes VS the cobra brakes....they cant be that much smaller so it realy shouldnt matter

I THINK JAKE SHOULD RUN 73 CAMARO REAR DRUMS I KNOW WHERE YOU CAN GET A SET

[540Malibu]

Originally posted by FATBLOCKMARO
I THINK JAKE SHOULD RUN 73 CAMARO REAR DRUMS I KNOW WHERE YOU CAN GET A SET

i think your a mess

[FATBLOCKMARO]

Originally posted by 540Malibu
i think your a mess


YOUR JUST MAD HE DOESN'T WANT MALIBU BRAKES!!!!!!!!!:O

[Superskwrl]

Originally posted by H3llphyre

Next time you see someone with a FAST nice looking car.... ask them how much they have invested into the car. You may be surprised at the amount.

Thanks for straightening me out, fwiw my pos only went 11.6's on motor, and hi 10's on spray and its the only car i own, and it cost less than 15k to build

[Superskwrl]

Originally posted by GT200MPH
and no you dont get the titles....but i'll sell you a SHO.....1 owner never beet.......LOL


So your backing out of our agreement????:wtf1:

[DevaROH]

well i will just throw in some of my personal info... i would say put the rear end in the way it sits. with or with out the cobra breaks. with it in the car, bring it to a shop and get the work done on the rear. there! its in the car already for racing, and its built and ready to break cause its a ford product. and when modding any type of ford product something is going to break.

[WETDRM]

Originally posted by Superskwrl
So your backing out of our agreement????:wtf1:

what do you meen??????? i said i put 15s on my car and i know they fit....i was correct.

[igotasweetride]

Originally posted by 95stang50
well i will just throw in some of my personal info... i would say put the rear end in the way it sits. with or with out the cobra breaks. with it in the car, bring it to a shop and get the work done on the rear. there! its in the car already for racing, and its built and ready to break cause its a ford product. and when modding any type of ford product something is going to break.

its cheaper to build it while its out of hte car, so its either now or when it breaks.

[H3llphyre]

Originally posted by igotasweetride
its cheaper to build it while its out of hte car, so its either now or when it breaks.

It's also cheaper to NOT have to fix shit that breaks when the shit you would have replaced breaks... Why risk destroying the housing?

[cougar]

i think that the car is fine as is....
i would wait untill u really need it/ untill stock is no good anymore wich could be a while



i read this thread and i am disgusted in the way people act

is anyone accredited here?

who's got a fucking clue on what real hard work is and not fucking around cause u got the money...do it smart do it right and then get over yourselves

and who here has built a real nice car from scratch... or even has worked on one...
and im not saying the nice ride down the st...



there are a group of u who seem to be never wrong.....
how do you get into this group, so people will listen to other peoples ideas before just being rude about it..
i feel that u need to have a group badge
bfore other people let others speak

[Grey Poupon]

I second running the car as-is before you do anything to it.

If nothing else, its fun to get a baseline.

-N

[03COBRABOY]

who the hell are u?? if u knew ANYTHING about 2003 cobra's you would know people break the STOCK REAR END in a STOCK CAR. the only way to keep it is to baby it and not race it at the track.

real hard work??? :wtf1: do YOU DO?? fuckin around with what money?? i am by NO MEANS above average. i SAAAAVE. and im doing this car up right so it kicks ASS.

built from scratch i cant speak for anyone but WORKED ON ONE? u got to be kidding me. u know ur right though...everyones car on here is stock. their just really good drivers running 11's an 12's

and this is what the forums are for...DISCUSSION

[03COBRABOY]

im sure i will run a baseline...if im gonna build some of the rear itll be a few more months. im still scared of the halfs breakin though.....

[Feral]

Originally posted by cougar
i think that the car is fine as is....
i would wait untill u really need it/ untill stock is no good anymore wich could be a while



i read this thread and i am disgusted in the way people act

is anyone accredited here?

who's got a fucking clue on what real hard work is and not fucking around cause u got the money...do it smart do it right and then get over yourselves

and who here has built a real nice car from scratch... or even has worked on one...
and im not saying the nice ride down the st...



there are a group of u who seem to be never wrong.....
how do you get into this group, so people will listen to other peoples ideas before just being rude about it..
i feel that u need to have a group badge
bfore other people let others speak

Everyone knows everything ... it's true because I read it on the internet.

[cougar]

Originally posted by Feral
Everyone knows everything ... it's true because I read it on the internet.


lol i like that, =)


all i am saying is that no one seems to give some one the time of day if they dont know them on this board personaly.....
and i see it more and more....
just venting

[Grey Poupon]

Originally posted by Badass99RT
im sure i will run a baseline...if im gonna build some of the rear itll be a few more months. im still scared of the halfs breakin though.....

Just run it.

Superskwrl is totally right.

It just seems kinda silly to totally turn a brand spanking new $30K car into an all-out drag car. You really should be able to get some good times out of that thing without dumping the old suspension, going with 15s and losing the bigger brakes, etc.

It's your dollar of course...

-N

[WETDRM]

Originally posted by cougar
lol i like that, =)


all i am saying is that no one seems to give some one the time of day if they dont know them on this board personaly.....
and i see it more and more....
just venting

thats bullshit.....ive met alot of people on this board ,and am always willing to meet more...i just put in my $0.02 when i know i have a clue.And as for building cars.....ive actualy lost count how many ive personaly put together(my own,and building vettes with my father)

[03COBRABOY]

again...where am i saying this is an all out drag car? i am taking out the first thing that WILL BREAK on this car. its the weakest point.

i didnt know switching out a rear end gave me an all out drag car...cool..:thumbsup:

[WETDRM]

Originally posted by Badass99RT
again...where am i saying this is an all out drag car? i am taking out the first thing that WILL BREAK on this car. its the weakest point.

i didnt know switching out a rear end gave me an all out drag car...cool..:thumbsup:


its ok Jake....i understand.the good thing is you can probably get the money back for the rear end by selling the IRS.

[03COBRABOY]

thats the plan..why u want it?:lol:

[WETDRM]

Originally posted by Badass99RT
thats the plan..why u want it?:lol:
LOL....no thanks.....it would fuck up my cars handling to much....LOL

[bottledbird68]

Originally posted by Grey Poupon
It just seems kinda silly to totally turn a brand spanking new $30K car into an all-out drag car. -N Is it silly? Maybe. But that's what makes it cool as hell :cool2:

[Feral]

Originally posted by Grey Poupon
It just seems kinda silly to totally turn a brand spanking new $30K car into an all-out drag car.

Its all about what he wants. He is looking for a consistent car and the IRS sucks for consistency. He wants traction and he wants the car the squat and go. With the right drivetrain a stock cobra will easily break into the lower 12's ... and consistently do it. Now throw on the $1800 in bolt ons that has been prover for 500RWHP and you have a consistently low 11 second brand new car for pretty short money all things consider.

The cobra doesn't need IRS ... it can't handle for shit anyway and after the drag suspension it definitely won't handle for shit. The cobra is not and will never be a ZO6. doing the same thing to a ZO6 would indeed be a shame but the cobra is just a muscle car and making it even more muscle car should not be looked down upon.

[Mr Joshua]

for the record, the cobra does not handle like shit, and your right it will never be a Z06 because it was never made to contend with the vette..
it's a pony car, not a muscle car, not a sports car, a pony car..
~J

[Devin Mac]

Originally posted by Black99Cobra
for the record, the cobra does not handle like shit

compared to what? a 3rd gen 'maro? or a car that actually is a good handler?

[Feral]

Originally posted by Black99Cobra
for the record, the cobra does not handle like shit, and your right it will never be a Z06 because it was never made to contend with the vette..
it's a pony car, not a muscle car, not a sports car, a pony car..
~J

Um ... I disagree ... but our definitions of what good handling is probably differ. For the record your average Neon slaloms as fast as an '03 Cobra ... it goes through the cones at something abysmal like 65mph ... hell my saturn comes close to that. Its a big heavy car with a chassis not designed for handling. Sure slap IRS on it ... but that's not going to help the weight transfer, high center of gravity, or huge polar moments of intertia any ...

[Devin Mac]

Originally posted by Feral
Um ... I disagree ... but our definitions of what good handling is probably differ. For the record your average Neon slaloms as fast as an '03 Cobra ... it goes through the cones at something abysmal like 65mph ... hell my saturn comes close to that. Its a big heavy car with a chassis not designed for handling. Sure slap IRS on it ... but that's not going to help the weight transfer, high center of gravity, or huge polar moments of intertia any ...

stock neons handle like shit...

[WETDRM]

Originally posted by Devin Mac
stock neons handle like shit...

oh cmon...me and derek got to denny's second:)

[540Malibu]

Originally posted by GT200MPH
oh cmon...me and derek got to denny's second:)

only cuz you don't have 96mph fuel cut.

[Mr Joshua]

it's a waste of time arguing this type of topic...
i spent $XYZ on my car, it's the shit... yer stock XYZ sucks..
i can do anything better than you can do...
this shits starting to piss me off..
once again, another tech thread killed by hijacking..
~J

[FATBLOCKMARO]

Originally posted by GT200MPH
oh cmon...me and derek got to denny's second:)


WHO GOT THERE FIRST:smokin: AND WHAT WAS I DRIVING:smokin:

[H3llphyre]

Originally posted by FATBLOCKMARO
WHO GOT THERE FIRST:smokin: AND WHAT WAS I DRIVING:smokin:

Yeah, passing me and paul on the onramp, passing people in the breakdown lane, driving through the redlight, jumping into denny's... all pretty impressive. In a freakin work truck.

[03COBRABOY]

once again, another tech thread killed by hijacking

i agree....:wtf1:

[FATBLOCKMARO]

Originally posted by H3llphyre
Yeah, passing me and paul on the onramp, passing people in the breakdown lane, driving through the redlight, jumping into denny's... all pretty impressive. In a freakin work truck.

I PREFERE 3/4 TON RACK BODY:smokin: