Calling all bodymen

[SickboySS]

ok, now i'm not just calling matt here, haha, cuz there might be a few others here that we dont know about....

rust problem...

88 K5 blazer - full size, needs complete floors...will supply all panels and even a write up on how to take it out and do it...how much do you think it would cost?

[H3llphyre]

508-751-5300


Give matt a call. I know he is pretty familiar with blazers and whatnot. He actually just replaced the floors in a bronco (same basic idea) and he painted the whole truck as well. I am sure he can answer you pretty quick over the phone.

[SickboySS]

this isn't happening right away, i'm just getting ideas right now so i can talk to my father, cuz this thing needs floors BAD

[H3llphyre]

Originally posted by SickboySS
this isn't happening right away, i'm just getting ideas right now so i can talk to my father, cuz this thing needs floors BAD

Yes, but talking to matt over the phone or in person is easier... then you can explain exactly what you want, as opposed to taking a week here to discuss it. Just my opinion... haha

[SickboySS]

oh i'll definitely call him, but i mean just incase anybody else here is a body man or sutin, so i can get different opinions...

i dont wanna get rid of the truck at all....its a beautiful truck with minimal outside rust, just typical blazer floors...

purrrdy aint she?
http://images.cardomain.com/member_images/12/web/264000-264999/264262_16_full.jpg

[Mr Joshua]

depends on your definition of floors..
just floorpans? or is it floor pans, tranny tunnel, etc..
~J

[SickboySS]

Originally posted by Black99Cobra
depends on your definition of floors..
just floorpans? or is it floor pans, tranny tunnel, etc..
~J

its all the panels from the front to the back...the 2 foot wells, behind the seats, the rise, then the back floor, and finally the rear crossmember

getting the panels is no problem, its just cutting the old ones out and putting the new ones in...

[SickboySS]

http://www.coloradok5.com/floorremoval.shtml

[bottledbird68]

Bwahahaha, you make it all sound so easy. That little write up really gives you no idea how labor intensive the whole proccess really is, kinda like watching one of the shows on TNN on sundays. You know damn well those rusty bolts didn't turn out on the first try....

Anyhow, back to your question. From the looks of it, assuming of course your following what the link you posted shows, you're replacing the entire floor assembly as well as all of the body mount crossmembers. I can tell you right now good luck even finding a shop that will touch it. Most won't. Realistically, between the time it would take to remove the interior, drill any and all spotwelds, fabricate any sections that are rotted and can't be purchased (trust me, you may not realize it but I'd put money on it that it's far worse than you think), grind and prep the areas for welding, weld everything in, seam seal and undercoat, then reinstall the interior, I think it would be more than fair to say you'd easily have three ten hour days into it. Assuming a shop rate of $45 an hour (and that's being nice for rot work), you're looking at $1,350 just in labor, let alone materials for the job. I'd be willing to bet any one you find who is willing to do it would want at least $1,500 or better. Then, add in the cost of the panels you'd be buying and you can see real quick why most people don't bother unless they can do it themselves. I remember when I was working at my last job sitting down with the bosses son and adding up everything down to the last detail we came up with $3,000 to buy and replace the floorpans on a 79 camaro. Of course that's assuming you actually charge for every last thing you do and use. Obviously you can't charge that which is why most shops refuse that kind of work for more "profitable" jobs.
But, if you want to discuss with me what I'd charge you we'd need to get a little more in depth as to what we're looking at doing. For that call or pm me. I won't post prices here. But, any other general discussion or questions about what I said feel free to post away and I'll give you my .02 :cool2:

[SickboySS]

hmmm...not what i wanted to hear, hahah, but oh well....

i'd take the interior out before it went anywhere, all it would have is a drivers seat and a buncha panels in the back ready to put in...
spotwelds? i'd think most are gone, these floors are pretty bad, the drivers seat is held up with "custom" brackets and wooden blocks wedged under it to keep it inside the truck...a few of those body crossmembers are gone, just fell off... did i mention it needs rocker panels too? or was that kind of obvious? hahaha

floors would cost me $780 for all of them including supports and the rear crossmember...

hmmm....i wanna save this truck pretty bad, and a couple of floor pieces are in good condition so that # can do down...

[bottledbird68]

Sorry, didn't mean to rain on your parade but I wanted to give you an idea of what you'd be looking at if you started calling around to get prices. More food for thought though, if where all the spotwelds are is rotted away what the hell are you planning on welding the floors too?

[SickboySS]

hahahaha, good point...

and no, you didn't rain on my parade or anything, i told my father and he said that didn't sound too bad....it all depends if the stock market keeps going up, thats what will pay for all of our projects and toys

[H3llphyre]

Originally posted by SickboySS
hahahaha, good point...

and no, you didn't rain on my parade or anything, i told my father and he said that didn't sound too bad....it all depends if the stock market keeps going up, thats what will pay for all of our projects and toys

Can it really go down any more? :thumbsup: for the market improving. Maybe now I can find a job again.

[SickboySS]

he lost alotta money in the market, but he's steadilly making 4k a day now when it keeps goin up

[ThaSac (MicZic)]

they make junk yards for a reason

its had its day.....

Zach

[TunedPort 335]

Originally posted by ThaSac (MicZic)
they make junk yards for a reason

its had its day.....

Zach

If I thought the same way, my car woulda been in the junkyard back in 2001....

[H3llphyre]

Originally posted by TunedPort 335
If I thought the same way, my car woulda been in the junkyard back in 2001....

Yup, so would about 99% of hotrods. The only ones that would be left are the ones grandma bought brand new and garaged for its entire life...

[Paulie C.]

ya i seem to know of some g bodies with bigblocks that swiss cheee for frames that have been brought back to life, but matt is definetly right on this one,best bet to find one that is in mint cond.there are still a decent amount left, and pay the amount for it that it would cost to fix this one anyways... no wthats just my $.02 on this matter.

[bottledbird68]

Originally posted by gaseaterbeater
ya i seem to know of some g bodies with bigblocks that swiss cheee for frames that have been brought back to life, but matt is definetly right on this one,best bet to find one that is in mint cond.there are still a decent amount left, and pay the amount for it that it would cost to fix this one anyways... no wthats just my $.02 on this matter. I never said get rid of it. I just wanted to prepare him for what it would realistically cost him to fix it from the "average" shop. I never make any assumptions on whether or not a vehicle is worth it. Hell, my firebird was somebody else's parts car when I bought it. All my fathers friends told me to enjoy it for a year or two then go buy a nice car. Here I am, 10 years later...... :blush:

[ThaSac (MicZic)]

I'm saying it from strictly an investment standpoint.

Its just not smart to drop a bunch of money into it.

It would be cheaper to just buy one out in arizona with a clean body.

but hey, I spent mo money on a miata so I'm not one to talk about investments, do what makes you happy.

Zach

[Paulie C.]

sorry i should have phrased that better i was agreeing with you onthe cost aspect and with other posts on getting another one my b. :eh:

[SickboySS]

we looked into buying another tub from other places...its a PITA, and plus if we just get a tub then we have to deal with rotted body mounts and all that shit... this one just needs new floors, outside is virtually perfect...newer motor with 88k on it, tranny rebuilt about 1k ago...

this is one of the cheapest alternatives...these trucks retain their value if they're kept nice

[bottledbird68]

So the floors and the rockers are gone but all the bodymounts are still ok? Wow....

[SickboySS]

no, i know the body mounts are rotted, but they'll survive...as long as its a solid truck and i could easilly get 4 or 5 more years out of it with new floors i'd be well worth it

[bottledbird68]

Originally posted by SickboySS
no, i know the body mounts are rotted, but they'll survive...as long as its a solid truck and i could easilly get 4 or 5 more years out of it with new floors i'd be well worth it You won't get 4 or 5 more years out of it if the body mounts are all rotted too. The floor will sink around what's left of the mounts and everything will just bend. It all needs to get done if you want to keep the truck. This is one of those jobs you can't half ass. If you do all you're doing is wasting your time and money. Besides, what are you planning to weld the floors to for support if the bodymounts are gone? That and I know if those are rotted too and you aren't planning to replace them as well you'll never find a shop who will take the job cause all it's going to do is fall apart again.... :thumbsup:

[SickboySS]

eh....i thought repairing it would be a good idea, its not, i realize this....we should just spend the cash on shipping cuz i found a complete tub in arizona for $300 and 1 in maryland with a tad bit of surface rust for $600

[bottledbird68]

Originally posted by SickboySS
eh....i thought repairing it would be a good idea, its not, i realize this....we should just spend the cash on shipping cuz i found a complete tub in arizona for $300 and 1 in maryland with a tad bit of surface rust for $600 That definitely sounds like it would be MUCH cheaper :thumbsup:

[Flyin'A II]

If you're interested, I spend a lot of time in the deep south, AL TN GA. There's plenty of good iron cheap down here. Just this past November, we got my wife an '89 Grand Wagoneer, no rot anywhere, straight, good runner, for $3500. If you want, I'll keep my eyes open. If your running gear is good, a decent bodied, smoker could be found dirt cheap. So what if it takes a case of 30 wt. oil to get it home.

[SickboySS]

Originally posted by Flyin'A II
If you're interested, I spend a lot of time in the deep south, AL TN GA. There's plenty of good iron cheap down here. Just this past November, we got my wife an '89 Grand Wagoneer, no rot anywhere, straight, good runner, for $3500. If you want, I'll keep my eyes open. If your running gear is good, a decent bodied, smoker could be found dirt cheap. So what if it takes a case of 30 wt. oil to get it home.

if you'd do that that would kick ass man...i'm not worried about getting it home, i have a friend who transports all over the country so thats the easy part, no motor, no frame, no wheels, no axles - no problem, hahaha

[Flyin'A II]

Eyes are now open, ISO k5's

[SickboySS]

schweet, thanx man