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Paulie C.
12-23-2003, 11:35 AM
In racing, nitrous is injected into the air intake to increase power. It does this in two ways. First, there is 1 oxygen atom per molecule of gas (compared to 0.4 for regular air). Second, when the liquid in the tank vaporizes, it comes out very cold. The effect of both of these is that you can cram a lot more oxygen into your cylinders. Since fuel (gasoline, at least) takes up far less space, you can easily increase the amount. Having increased the quantities of both fuel and air, you have increased the pressure on the power stroke.
O2 gas would theoretically be better, but you need a much thicker (heavier) tank to get it to liquify, and it is much more of a hazard if something goes wrong.

Found this while looking for cheap nitrous kits, thought it would be funny to see what you nitrous junkies might say about it haha:thumbsup:

Devin Mac
12-23-2003, 12:12 PM
Originally posted by gaseaterbeater
In racing, nitrous is injected into the air intake to increase power. It does this in two ways. First, there is 1 oxygen atom per molecule of gas (compared to 0.4 for regular air). Second, when the liquid in the tank vaporizes, it comes out very cold. The effect of both of these is that you can cram a lot more oxygen into your cylinders. Since fuel (gasoline, at least) takes up far less space, you can easily increase the amount. Having increased the quantities of both fuel and air, you have increased the pressure on the power stroke.
O2 gas would theoretically be better, but you need a much thicker (heavier) tank to get it to liquify, and it is much more of a hazard if something goes wrong.

Found this while looking for cheap nitrous kits, thought it would be funny to see what you nitrous junkies might say about it haha:thumbsup:

what's your point? that IS how nitrous works...

Paulie C.
12-23-2003, 12:58 PM
ya... sooo i posted a factoid geez sorry i dont meet your approval

540Malibu
12-23-2003, 02:30 PM
Originally posted by gaseaterbeater
In racing, nitrous is injected into the air intake to increase power. It does this in two ways. First, there is 1 oxygen atom per molecule of gas (compared to 0.4 for regular air). Second, when the liquid in the tank vaporizes, it comes out very cold. The effect of both of these is that you can cram a lot more oxygen into your cylinders. Since fuel (gasoline, at least) takes up far less space, you can easily increase the amount. Having increased the quantities of both fuel and air, you have increased the pressure on the power stroke.
O2 gas would theoretically be better, but you need a much thicker (heavier) tank to get it to liquify, and it is much more of a hazard if something goes wrong.

Found this while looking for cheap nitrous kits, thought it would be funny to see what you nitrous junkies might say about it haha:thumbsup:

you cant have .4 atoms/ molecule, an atom is the smallest thing in existence( besides nothing) if you get .4 atoms, the world will no longer exist.

Paulie C.
12-23-2003, 02:37 PM
thank u spence, i didnt even read that deep into it lol

Devin Mac
12-23-2003, 02:50 PM
oh, i was only ripping on you cuz i thought you were knocking it... lol

the part at the end makes it sound like you didn't believe this explaination. :thumbsup:

and spence... i hope you're joking too. cuz when ya talk ratios, you can have fractions of an "atom per molecule" seeing as that is the unit we are quantifying here, and not the actual atom itself... and i guess... we can leave subatomic particles out of this as well, eh? :thumbsup:

Paulie C.
12-23-2003, 02:56 PM
its all good :smokin:

540Malibu
12-23-2003, 02:56 PM
Originally posted by Devin Mac
oh, i was only ripping on you cuz i thought you were knocking it... lol

the part at the end makes it sound like you didn't believe this explaination. :thumbsup:

and spence... i hope you're joking too. cuz when ya talk ratios, you can have fractions of an "atom per molecule" seeing as that is the unit we are quantifying here, and not the actual atom itself... and i guess... we can leave subatomic particles out of this as well, eh? :thumbsup:

take an english course, the way its worded i am correct, it could never be correct because Air is not a molecule, air is a collection of molecules one molecule of which could be nitrous oxide itself.

MadMalibu71
12-24-2003, 02:29 PM
Obscure refrence... Was watching trucks, they had like a brand new chevy HD diesel.. well they not only put nitrous on it, they propane injected it!!.. talk about a bomb ready to go off.. but anywayz, they dynoed it and i believe that had it pushing 465rwhp and i dont remeber the torque but i was up there... can somebody second that??... Kinda impressed me.. =)
:thumbsup:

Devin Mac
12-26-2003, 10:04 AM
Originally posted by 540Malibu
take an english course, the way its worded i am correct, it could never be correct because Air is not a molecule, air is a collection of molecules one molecule of which could be nitrous oxide itself.

your statement, "you cant have .4 atoms/ molecule, an atom is the smallest thing in existence( besides nothing) if you get .4 atoms, the world will no longer exist."

and now you say that the reason is because air is a collection of molecules.

now, i wouldn't bother with this again, except you told me to take an english course. nigga please... :-P

atoms per molecule, works just fine here, since as you stated, air is a collection of molecules. some of these will have oxygen atoms and some won't (in fact, most of them don't, since over 78% of "air" is N2), if i had "air" composed of 78% N2, 20% O2, and the final 2% N2O (not real air, but just an example here), i would have .42 atoms of oxygen per molecule in my air sample. hence, .4 atoms/molecule.

moral of the story, nitrous is wonderful stuff which works by increasing the Oxygen-per-molecule count of the intake charge to allow extra fuel burnage (burnage? ok. maybe i do need an english class or two :thumbsup: )

Jcb890
12-26-2003, 05:00 PM
nitrous = faster :thumbsup:

Blackwidow
12-27-2003, 03:37 AM
Originally posted by Devin Mac
your statement, "you cant have .4 atoms/ molecule, an atom is the smallest thing in existence( besides nothing) if you get .4 atoms, the world will no longer exist."

and now you say that the reason is because air is a collection of molecules.

now, i wouldn't bother with this again, except you told me to take an english course. nigga please... :-P

atoms per molecule, works just fine here, since as you stated, air is a collection of molecules. some of these will have oxygen atoms and some won't (in fact, most of them don't, since over 78% of "air" is N2), if i had "air" composed of 78% N2, 20% O2, and the final 2% N2O (not real air, but just an example here), i would have .42 atoms of oxygen per molecule in my air sample. hence, .4 atoms/molecule.

moral of the story, nitrous is wonderful stuff which works by increasing the Oxygen-per-molecule count of the intake charge to allow extra fuel burnage (burnage? ok. maybe i do need an english class or two :thumbsup: )

Thank you mr wizard

Mister .4 the height of Ken is correct .. in Chemical formations it is possible to have a fraction of an atom for purposes of breaking it down to ratios of substances .. dont fuck with me and my Chemistry knowledge .. i could blow up your house and still leave the pickles in your fridge tastey delicious like

540Malibu
12-28-2003, 01:21 AM
point is it is imposiible to physcally have .4 atoms without a splitting an atom and if you did this you would die.

to make the equation correct you would need to say 1 atom per 4.5 molecules.